when you ad in movement abilities shotguns have quite a lot more effective range than fusion rifles,
that coupled with their insta kill potential for "oh shit" moments makes them many many times more powerful options than fusions.
now let's take into account the fusion rifle "ghost bullets" where you see the darn pellets go right into your target for zero damage....
fusions need a massive buff to be even marginally competitive with shotguns....
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since nobody can read... I called out movement skill and shotguns together for a reason. a simple blink can make an easy win for a shotgun vs a fusion rifle even if they start at range.
anybody who disagrees is welcome to add me into a 1v1, so I can prove how easy it is to dodge fusions while shotgunning (and I almost never run blink)
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Fusions have a farther OHK range then a top tier shotgun. So no. Effective range is not better. Shotguns are easier to use and better for really mobile people. but that doesn't make them objectively better.
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1 commentaire[quote]whe[b]n[/b] you add in mov[b]e[/b]ment abilities shotguns have quite a lot mo[b]r[/b]e e[b]f[/b]fective range than [b]fusion rifles[/b][/quote] I sense a hidden message. [spoiler]The spookiest (and luckiest) seven you will ever meet[/spoiler]
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2 commentairesALL weapons need a massive buff!!!! Every weapons should be at full stats in PVP! Lets get the vag salt dripping to its fullest potential. But fusion rifles in the right hands are good as they are now.
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1 commentaireMovement speed doesn't have anything to do with range. That's like saying it makes you a better throw in baseball if you run before you throw. It's going to go the same distance.
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4 commentairesSame skills, a fusion player should win against a shotgun user more often than not. A good fusion player will know how to counter shotgun moves.
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3 commentairesHave you tried Saladin's Vigil with good rolls... Best legendary Fusion imo.
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Not quite, I shot a wall with a Fusion rifle and all 7 bullets hit the wall. I shot the wall with a shotgun and not one bullets even caressed the wall
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1 commentaireRefer to a previous post I made with a Fusion Rifle. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/213824627?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1 I would never choose a shotty after trying out a comfortable fusion rifle. once you find one that suits your playstyle you will never choose a shotgun again
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how about you 1v1 IRL? I promise i won't wreck you too hard tho.
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14 commentairesFusions are very inconsistent. And this is coming from someone who almost always uses fusions in crucible. [spoiler]If I have a sniper equipped, I was doing something PvE related. I'm just awful using snipers in PvP.[/spoiler]
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Lol are you actually complaining about blink? Just delete this post now.
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1 commentaire[quote]anybody who disagrees is welcome to add me into a 1v1, so I can prove how easy it is to dodge fusions while shotgunning (and I almost never run blink)[/quote] Lol
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Its ok everyone this guy suck thats why this is a dumb thread.
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I agree that ghost shots are still real af -blam!- now and then with fusions, but still find them more satisfying to get a kill with, and like Judge Rhymehold said, I can damn near cross map you with my fusion, even mid-blink. Another weird thing they do, is when running and when you try and stop to aim and shoot quickly, they can wig out and not fire at all and you feel as if you're being pushed back into your run. It's weird and only happens rarely, but a problem is a problem, so I see your point with the movement/mobility edge to shotguns, by they definitely are more fun I my book.
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10 commentairesWell that's bullshit. My fusion can one shot across the room. Can you shotty do that?
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You must be nearsighted.
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No they don't.
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11 commentaires"Fusions need a massive buff" Some people smh Fusions in the right hands right now dominate. If I see a guy running Plan C I dont even challenge him 1v1 because I know hell disintegrate my ass before I can even take away half his health. A "massive buff" would make them OP.
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1 commentaireThey really don't from a pve perspective so please don't ruin my shottys anymore I need them
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I disagree, saladins vigil -blam!-ing snipes!
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That's a lie and you know it. Unless you're just that bad with Fusion Rifles...
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I would be willing to prove this wrong
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21 commentairesPreach. Anyone who disagrees with you is probably just in denial, fusions are simply far too inconsistent in their current state for them to be considered competitive.
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1 commentaireYou -blam!-ing retards aren't even trying anymore with these posts.
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Use a sidearm...