The logic of one hit kill abilities only being about skill is hilarious.
So why take warlocks OHK away and then only give them to two classes?
That in itself is proof warlocks are just constantly getting overlooked.
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Because the warlock design team is full of idiots. They come up with the dumbest melee ideas and always try to talk them up, but only prove how clueless they are about the game.
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I would give up throwing knives for the new Warlock melee in a heartbeat. Heck, just imagine how terrifying Titans with that melee would be Consistent Damage > High Potential Damage
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2 RepliesThey do? Plus the have easy access to a bunch of stuff Hunters and Titans can’t, like group healing and damage on demand. Devour chaining is busted good, Icarus dash is just all of the great, all of their melees are ranged, their lightning slide melee is crazy strong, they have easy ways of generating lots of ionic traces (which can give them amplified). Stasis lock already has insta freeze into 1 hit melee with chaining freeze potential, their rift does the same thing when cast. They objectively have the best overall supers (they consistently have excellent support, offensive and clearing supers with little downside) in the game (though Hunter and titan have a couple very strong ones, most are meh). Like do you even play warlock because I don’t know where this sort of complaint comes from.
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New melee is pretty potent when against multiple enemies.
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they have flux nades
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2 RepliesBungie doesn’t want warlocks to be good in PVP, Titan can One shot with three different melee options in combination with exotic armor, WITH NO KILL REQUIRED BEFOREHAND, and hunters can still one shot with the throwing knife and shatter dive square ice wall combo, NO KILL REQUIRED TO ONE SHOT. But for the warlock we have to work twice as hard and get a kill first to yield the same lethal output. Everyone wants to talk about oh but the warlock melee has good range , yeah OK good range but terrible damage means you don’t do squat, Somebody go ahead and try using pocket infinity in pvp and compare that to a shoulder charge or throwing knife. Warlocks have been screaming for crucible balance for so long but it falls on deaf ears.
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5 RepliesOur new slide melee can do this.
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2 Repliesthe new warlock melee is a multi oneshot ability
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20 RepliesGot several for you. Dawnblade. Nova Bomb. Nova Warp. Be educated. [spoiler];)[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesBro you -blam!- about everything lmao
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9 RepliesFlux nades. Magnetic grenade on anything below 6 resilience... Scatter grenade. Your new arc melee if there is more than 1 person. You already have a few.
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Don't you know ow warlocks aren't allowed ti have anything good or fun.
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I find myself 1 hitting people with the new arc melee alot
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Isnt our new slide melee ohk possible? Seemed to be getting them this last Iron Banner Alot
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2 RepliesYou and your clan mate need to chill out.
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17 RepliesYou have the new Arc melee and flux nades. And verities brow with 1 stack and magnetic grenades and fusion grenades. [spoiler] there you go, learn to buildcraft you stupid warlock[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyEdited by michael: 9/14/2022 12:49:08 PMWhy do people base the strength of a class on how many ohk abilities they have? Youre telling me because titans and hunters have one OHK ability each, your instant thought is that warlocks are "constantly overlooked"?? And either way, Penumbral burst and the freeze rift are basically OHK abilities if you actually use the correctly so you dont even have a point within your own epistemology I would so so so much rather have the voidwalker melee that tracks people through the air and around close corners to send them flying backwards, or celestial fire that is basically a get out of jail free card while shotgunning or in a losing primary fight, than the new titan melee that requires such specific circumstances to use effectively as a OHK ability
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new arc warlock melee OHK. Arc flux grenades OHK. plunderthatbooty fusion grenade build OHK with ignition any supers too. precise scatter grenade throw OHK. stasis freeze + melee with rift OHK
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4 RepliesSorry can't hear you over your borked Blink-melee that can kill an entire room of guardians with low risk.
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1 ReplyHaving a ohk ability doesn't necessarily make the ability or class good. Its ENTIRELY dependent on how you achieve it that matters. With handheld before they nerfed it, it was probably the most egregious one of the bunch. It was a pocket fusion that could wipe multiple people faster than a normal popular fusion could charge. Now it obviously sucks beyond belief, but somebody that knew what they were doing with it before was a PAIN in the -blam!- to fight and it was dirt easy. Thunderclap and consecration are incredibly slow for their one shots and pose a substantial risk for missing. Shoulder charge put you in shotgun range which was extremely dangerous before they started really reigning in shotguns...and then they lost the one shot capability for utility which is honestly way better for how people were using it anyways. The hunters only remaining one shot is the throwing knife...which has a cheesy hitbox but it at least requires a headshot to kill somebody. Celestial fire is a fantastic melee, smoke bomb can be pretty annoying, the shield toss is not as bad as people think it is, ballistic slam claps, uncharged thunderclap is strong, chain lightning is pretty good, the shoulder charge melees are all solid, proximity knife is incredibly strong, disorienting blow sucks to get hit by, all 3 stasis melees are good in their own way.
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No, we are not constantly getting overlooked. We are constantly getting screwed.
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Edited by Hawpy: 9/14/2022 2:32:06 AMLighning Surge can OHK against groups, but it will never do it to a single target and isn't really in the spirit of the post. There are some grenades that can OKH at one stack of Death Throes from Verity's Brow, but that is also not quite the same as an ability that can OHK entirely on its own or with no real setup from an Exotic. That also segues nicely into the complete lack of good PvP Exotics for Warlocks. Over the years, think about how Titans have had OEM, Antaeus Wards and Loreley, or how Hunters have Wormhusk, Stompies, Renewal Grasps and Omnioculus (to name a few, Hunters have had way too many). All of these were dominant in Crucible for a significant period of time. Meanwhile, Warlocks are still using Ophidian Aspect and Transversive Steps, neither of which add new abilities or do anything to augment existing ones. They have no competition whatsoever and yet people are surprised that they keep being used. Think about how fast OG Nova Warp got decimated, while Spectral Blades went untouched for nearly a year. Remember how Shadebinder's Penumbral Blast melee was nerfed within 2 weeks of Beyond Light but Shatterdive was everywhere for around 18 months?
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10 Repliesyou have flux grenades that your daddy Azlan cried 2 weeks about yet nobody uses them
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2 RepliesAll of these posts saying things that don’t ohk.. Flux grenades: can’t ohk Hand held super nova: can’t ohk New arc slide melee: can’t ohk Hunter light & heavy throwing knives: can ohk Titan charge melee: can ohk
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2 RepliesHandheld Supernova is still a one-shot.
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1 ReplyFLUX GRENADES