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7/28/2019 2:25:39 PM
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SBMM must return.
Skill Based Matchmaking needs to make a return in Crucible. I know the main reason why people didn’t like it, cause of the slow Matchmaking times. But honestly, I’d take slightly longer Matchmaking times over being matched with highly skilled players who constantly stomp players in Comp who aren’t as skilled and MLG Pro as them other players. If SBMM pairs us up with others of equal skill level and making Comp and Crucible more balanced, I think that is worth the slightly longer Matchmaking times. Halo 2 and Reach had SBMM and it worked out well. I had better matches, and PvP was less of a headache.
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Uh.. I think matchmaking is fine where it is rn..
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24 RepliesNoticed a trend with players who ask for sbmm. They’re typically terrible pvp players who don’t want to face anyone better than them. How can players ask for sbmm in P2P networking? Train those lazy ass fingers.
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Ah yes so wait times for a match can be even worse... What they really need is dedicated servers like real PvP games
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I went back to console. Straight to IB 100 light levels underFirst game stack, first game, held a 1kd+ because they played easy bait but also because my teammates intelligence were wack. Like they team shot but also ran away from flags? Point is, stacks are easy to kill, but they know what they are doing in obj.
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Mad cos bad
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59 RepliesEveryone saying “No” just wants to pubstomp people who are way worse than them. SBMM is what allows people to get better through a gradual increase in you opponents skill level. You don’t learn anything getting ass ponded by the top players. The problem is that only the top players are left in PvP so every game is a sweat fest if you are even above average. “Average” and below are almost all gone.
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8 RepliesEdited by bang_i_shot_you_: 7/29/2019 9:43:49 AMI played Destiny 1 when it had sbmn, I played all of Destiny 2's wonky matchmaking and I am confident in saying that sbmm is and always will be a terrible idea. I'm an average player. I'm not the greatest, but not a potato either and I can confidently say that sbmm would make crucible twenty times worse for literally all but the bottom 30% of pvp players. It takes away all the reward and incentive to get better, because what's the point if getting better if it means facing progressively harder opponents? Matches take longer to find and there's guaranteed a rubber banding time lord who takes no damage from anything, and it would lead to people creating smurf accounts to stomp lower level players. Everytime sbmm is brought up it is shutdown, because it is not what the community wants.
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3 RepliesIt's not just slower matchmaking times. It's also worse connection, and less reward for improvement. Skill based matchmaking has no place in quickplay.
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11 RepliesI am trash at pvp (someone will check my stats) and I believe sbmm should stay gone. You will only get better if you play against someone better then you.
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6 RepliesIt is in Competitive unfortunately, I just figured out that your matchmaking is based upon your Valor rank not your Glory rank.
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No. Matchmaking time is not the issue with SBMM, constant lag is, and this game isn’t exactly lag free to begin with thanks to the P2P-setup they use.
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Ignore the idots saying "if ypu wanna get better you gotta play to top 10% of players" crap. That logic is so pathetic its hilarious Thats like saying a 1995 honda civic will get faster by simply racing against a corvette. Its stupid. SBMM doesnt work well in destiny because of its oathetic P2P networking. It causes huge amounts of lag because you might get matched against someone on the other side of the planet. If bungie wasnt cheap and incompetent this would have never been an issue in the first place. Region locking would have easily fixed that problem entirely. ANY competitive game mode should ALWAYS be region locked. There should be no chance of me matching out of my region is a game mode where everything matters. But because people would cry that they cant play with their friends on mars, bungie wont do it. Dedicated servers would also help but thats the cheap part of bungie i was talking about. Every other game that employs SBMM works just fine 95% of the time. So why its virtually impossible for bungie i have absolutely no idea. I guess its a money thing and a "we dont wanna play against our own skill because then we wouldnt be as good" players crying all the time that just want free wins. They say they "earned" their pinnacles? I highly doubt it.
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My dude you have a 0.8 kd lmfaoooo You’re just bad git gud
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4 RepliesYou people realize that it will become a lot sweatier for you too....
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3 RepliesConsidering that CBMM gives me nothing, I'll take SBMM.
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7 RepliesEnjoying Iron Banner?
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Ouch 300+ replies and 0 upvotes. But sure people want it back
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16 RepliesEvery time I step foot in iron banner it’s laggy as shit and unenjoyable. (Cough cough it has SBMM) in QP I get a varied experience that is almost entirely free of lag, (connection based matchmaking) Why the hell would I want skill based matchmaking? So the “I’m just in it for the milestone” crew can have an “easier” time at the expense of connection quality and enjoyabilty for anybody half decent at the game? No thanks. You want SBMM (or something similar) play: Rumble Comp Iron banner
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1 ReplyNo. If you're not skilled, get skilled or get killed. Hey! That rhymes! In all honesty, the problem isn't that I don't want to be matched against people of my skill, it's because for those who are highly skilled, getting matched against people in Italy when I live in the United States creates an unwelcoming gaming experience due to the connection and lack of dedicated servers.
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More people don't want it than do want it and there's reasons for that. Its not just so simple as you get to play people closer to your level and that's it.
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13 RepliesNobody wants sbmm, why do u think everyone complains about ib, but nobody complains about qp unless it happens in bolth
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Iron banner has heavy SBMM and I’ve never seen so many games end in a mercy so... no. There’s a lot of reasons why it doesn’t work
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The whole skill argument asside, lag is another reason why a lot of people don't want sbmm
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6 RepliesI am not sure why this is coming back now, I have seen a few post around asking the same thing, all with the same result. One thing you dont mention about SBMM which can be clearly seen in IB is the lag, it is very noticeable when I play IB, while it rarely happens in QP, or at least is not as extreme. Sweaty games are annoying but thats just the second most annoying thing about it, lag is my first reason, and remember that a lot of people are now playing IB... normally you wont find as many players in QP therefore coming across laggy players will be even more common! But I dont think SBMM will work in comp, comp has ranked MM which makes more sense. Bear in mind that doing SBMM in comp basing it, for instance, on KD or KDA will be problematic. I have seen a lot of unbrokens with a comp kd of 1.1 ... just because they always play in a team. I have a KD in comp of 1.85 KD in comp and I can guarantee you I am much worse that players with a much lower KD, the reason why is so high is because I only play a few games per season (I think I have 52 matches in total) so by using SBMM I would be paired up with players on a 1.85 with, lets say, 5000 games... now thats no fun isnt it? Now, the reason why people want SBMM in comp (as they wanted it in trials) is because they think it will be easier for them to get to 2100 or 5500... but then it wouldnt be competitive as such. You keep referencing that introducing SBMM will make it competitive, but I think the word you are looking for is more equal. Competitive comes from competition, and the definition of competition is: "The activity or condition of striving to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others." No mention that you have to be fighting against players of the similar skill. Now there are cases where the skill gap is so great and the demand so high that you have different levels or leagues, like in soccer you have 1st division, then 2nd, 3rd etc... but before you say anything bear in mind that players playing on 3rd division dont get the same compensations/rewards as players playing on 1st. What you might want is a different competitive list where only players with certain low skill set can play, but with no rewards or very low tier rewards... and then if you wanted better rewards you will need to try a different, and harder comp list. However, I feel that what you are looking for is for a low skill comp list, in which you can also opt for the end game crucible rewards, like NF or LH...
