I've been enjoying WarFrame lately if D2 flops I know what I'm focusing on.

Yeah they're pushing for pvp totally! 80+ story missions mean pvp

PVE was never ruined by any pvp-based balance though. To this day I still have no idea what the hell people even mean when they say this.

Angry kids who can't shoot an opposing player to save their lives.... they prefer A.I That runs directly at them or stands still....

if you want your opinion count, then cancel your pre-order. don't buy it, don't play it. Because destiny is a fcuking pvp game now.

Problem is not content amounts, its all the balancing decisions they insist on keeping on par in both modes. For example the exotic limit makes no sense in a pve game about loot collecting, completly defeats the purpose of doing the hard content to get them. You say overpowered, i say player choice and build possibilites, just creat more epic content to go with it.... would anyone play an arpg like diablo if it had a limit on legendaries and no synergy on equipment...hell no. Another example is the weapon types changes... now you have a slot only for shields instead of more weapon options... feels like call of destiny. They need to separate both modes because its obvious they do not know how to keep both balanced together. Tired of getting exotics ill never used because most raids require the same weapons for dps, why not just deactivate the special features on them in pvp and be done with it.

Ill be with you. Unless bungie decides to make some huge changes. Which they most certainly wont because they are always right and the people who play the game have no idea anout anything

The game is dumbed and watered down in both modes...personally I don't give a damn anymore. The Beta overall was boring...I lost interest in the Strike after two runs and in PvP after two matches. I'll buy it just for the exploration of new stuff (Story, Patrols, Raid, Lost Sectors, Adventures and Flashpoints) with my buddies. Once everything in PvE is done once or maybe twice, I'll lose interest pretty fast. Another 2000+ hours? Hell no. Maybe 1-200. I won't really touch PvP and I won't even create a second character.

Yet the amount of activities getting added to PvE drawf that of PvP.

Not the first and only Bait/Switch in gaming! Destiny 2 Beta confirmed PVP was the focus. AI responses did not drive the conversion to Hybrid Servers, PVP did... That was a significant financial investment and a year delay based solely on PVP. The entire game was rewritten to take advantage of the system implemented specifically focused on the remaining majority player base: PVP. PVE remains simply because the sequel makes no sense without a story. So, Garry kicked you off his ship, and took your power. Next DLC. In the interim, PVP balancing dominates... Nothing [u]new[/u] to see here, move along...

I played a lot more pve than pvp in D1 and I'm not upset with the new setup. They both have their pros and cons. The metas in pvp were atrocious, red bars suck and getiing dropped in the middle of a match you have no cjance in blows. But for the most part pvp was fun to test yourself. Yes, I didn't start playing until Jan. 2015, so I missed out on the early days that everyone loved so much. But, I spent hours on patrol, doing strikes and working through the story. However Raids and POE were virtually useless to me. I have a full time job and a family, so my game time is limited to certain times and days, as well as not always being able to play for any certain length of time. Most of the people I know are in the same boat, so getting together with people I know to do either of those activities is virtually nil. And trying to find a Clan or someone on LFG is a joke. I met people along the way, sure. 1 player in particular was great to play with when we able to play at the same time. Most though, meh. I am looking forward to the being able to join a clan for raids in D2 and maybe making the connection with a clan. I liked the the PVP in the beta. I liked the Strike in the Beta, it was more of a challenge than most of the strikes in D1. I like the weapon system in D2. What fun is OHK'ing everything with specials and heavies? I like being in gun battles, having to be able to use different primaries throughout the missions, trying to stay alive long enough for your health to regen. I don't want or expect to go through the game without dying. If it's so easy to run through OHK'ing everything, where is the challenge or the skill in that? I like not running through lobbing grenades like they're candy at a parade. Or not being able to shoot off supers like they're roman candles. You should have to work for that power, not just have it handed to you at the start of the game. That being said, I am also happy that D2 seems to be less grind oriented. The monotony of D1 was miserable, although addictive. It's like wanting to stop eating your favorite food, because it makes you ill, but it still tastes so good you can't stop. I don't think you can say it's going to be PVP biased, as we haven't even done any patrols or had but a small taste of the story. I hope that we'll all be happily surprised 9/6. If we can get on the servers... I know I'm taking a day of vacation for the release, who's with me?