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Edited by Rusty678:
10/7/2016 12:08:31 AM
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The inevitable doom of shotguns coming right up
Not a fan of all the shot gunning going on but I still don't support a nerf on them . Doesn't matter what I think though. Bumgie is going to nerf those -blam!-ers into ground in their next "weapons balance" (term used very loose) RIP shot guns . I feel for all you shotgunners .
The mechanics of this game are so -blam!-ing broken it's depressing .
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2 RepliesTbh, shotguns currently are hilarious broken but outside of what I believe is abysmal balancing between shotguns the major issue isnt shotguns, its the movement. Lets say you couldn't slide, would shotguns being weaker? Yes, would the game be overall better for it? Probably. Now lets say much like in halo, when you got hit you slowed down, so you couldnt just sprint through bullets, would the plague of shotgunning be remedied? To a degree, would the game as a whole be better for it? Probably. Finally lets imagine that shadestep and twilight garrison had the same shooting delay that blink did, would that help the shotgun issue? Probably. Now if these were all in effect, shotgunning would be much harder to pull off and would cut down on their usage without crippling the gun. Of course then you have the issue of snipers being far to powerful for the special slot in general but thats a discussion for another day.
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Edited by Konkydonk: 10/9/2016 8:08:17 AMI don't have a good shotgun but I'm pretty I will get one after they became worthless
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2 RepliesThis is the inevitable, inescapable truth of Destiny: If its fun or powerful, someone will cry about it, and it'll get nerfed. If it is balanced, but overused, it will get nerfed. You can accept it or you can get angry about it and walk away. I chose to put the game down. I'm tired of a gun working well one day and it not working well the next, just based on what Jon Wisniewski had for breakfast. I like my guns to be consistent. No, I don't mean across PVE and PVP. I mean I like to know when I pick that gun up a year from now it'll perform just as well as it does today. You don't ever get that with Destiny. And its dumb IMO. Player choice and map selection should dictate loadout. NOT Jon Wisniewski.
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Edited by TheShadow: 10/8/2016 1:10:08 AMWhat do you expect. This is Destiny and your challenge is to see what you can have nerfed first before the next update. Nerfing weapons or whatever is the only thing in this game that is a guarantee that you will never have to worry about not happening. All you have to do is cry the loudest and longest on anything you want nerfed and sooner or later Bungie will get to it. So instead of trying to fight it all the time. Make bets on what is getting nerfed first from the nerf happy team of gaming history. Even though that last statement is a joke. It's not funny anymore because it's true.
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1 ReplyIn case you havent noticed shotguns already got nerfed.. the problem is the reiculously.high rolled.shotguns like party crasher, matador, conspiracy theory archetype. With range finder and other ramge perks making them.slide gods dream. I think Bungie is scared to nerf shotguns because they dont know how it will make people feel considering that most people are using them right now.
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I remember when pulse rifles were balanced, primary guns used to be fun to use. Hell even when autos where good it was a dream come true, now its the specials meta and its been going on for a long time. Bungie clearly hates primary guns
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1 ReplyEdited by SaltyJack591: 10/7/2016 7:43:58 PMBack before the secondary weapon meta started primary weapons were much stronger. Our inability to counter is what make the current meta viable, same for the sniper meta. It's not that they were ever OP, the primary weapons got so weak they could no longer counter any of the power weapons. I'm not sure why Bungie thinks we need to have such long TTK's for primary weapons in PvP, we should go back to year 1 levels for TTK's. It was a much faster paced game. PvE would also benefit and we could restore the power weapons for that mode to make them more viable and make our primary weapons what they once were.
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Then they will come after my fusion rifles again.... sigh...
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2 RepliesI have never supported any nerfs but crucible is completely destroyed right now- no attempts to even use primary weapons thanks to the lagfest that is the current Iron shotgun scrub-a-thon worst era of crucible ever - just when you think it can't get worse...
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Just buff primaries that's all I have to say. I can't tell you how many times when I have a shotgun warrior running at me while I'm shooting him/her with my primary and they still manage to pop one off to kill me while I'm shooting them. The TTK on primaries is just sad when going up against a shotgun warrior. It's like no one in this game owns a primary anymore or even know how to use one.
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I main shotguns for my special. I pick between a 4th horseman or a strongbow. I'm not the meta type though I have tried a party crasher just to know my enemy... In doing so I personally feel the range is a bit much. Even with the buff to the lower impact shotguns (which to me are in a reasonable position when it comes to range and effectiveness now) I think the high impact shotguns need a slight nerf. They are still being used as the weapon of choice when it comes to shotguns themselves. Given their archetype it'll be hard to adjust. I know slide shotgunning can be annoying. I think they should start there before doing something like expanding the cone for spread or removing a perk. I think sliding should take more time to build up not just taking 2 steps and sliding and or have less accuracy while sliding. Personally I don't think they will make anymore adjustments to shotguns.
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I hope they don't use supremacy as grounds for a nerf to shotguns ~ A Sniper player
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3 RepliesNerfy's Law - What can be nerfed will be nerfed.
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1 ReplyThey need to change the map design so that they cater to all ranges, not just close.
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2 RepliesI love shotgun meta honestly. No more Trials of Snipers. Its a much more fast paced and intense gameplay. Instead of LDR/Longbow/1kys and MIDA sitting in a sniping lane the entire game.
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3 RepliesI doubt it. The game mode is dictating the weapon loadouts right now. That mode being supremacy. Honestly, if you're NOT using a shotgun you are an idiot.
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That's exactly how I am. I hate shotguns with a passion. I -blam!-ing despise seeing them but they don't deserve a Nerf.
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I hope not, I don't pvp, but, the no more one shot on knights is madness, here's hoping pvp doesn't once again screw with pve
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4 RepliesWhat's even more sad is that auto rifles are currently dominating supremacy yet no one even cares to check. It's ARs at top, followed by hand cannons then shotguns.
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Then only problem i see with shotguns, is the fact that this IB IS MADE FOR SHOTUGUNS, why anyone would use a snyper rifle in this game mode? Just to incrase K/D ratio?
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2 RepliesIf they get nerfed anymore, they won't be shotguns. They'll be clubs.
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1 ReplyI don't see how they can... except: Competent Shell Design: Shotguns increase immensely in range Competent Gun Design: Snipers handle faster and have adjustable lenses Competent Armor Design: Guardian armour is super effective against buckshot. Guardian shields are super effective against sniper rounds. Which is too much work.
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They have already nerfed them into the ground. The problem with shotguns isn't shotguns, it's the extreme quickness and mobility we have in this game, combined with relative small Crucible maps. An engagement can start at mid-range (well out of shotgun range) and the shotgunner will be able to close the gap quickly, tank the initial damage from your primary, and end the engagement with one shot. [spoiler]Full disclosure: I HATE shotguns. Hate them. But they shouldn't be nerfed anymore.[/spoiler]
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Then my vacancy and other fusions are next fml.
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.... if a shotgunner is rushing you, either gain vertical, gun them down, or both. Yall have grenades and melee use em
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3 RepliesBut they nerfed shotguns three times already. To get a shotgun kill you either have to damage your enemy before or be in warlock melee range.
