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9/27/2016 8:03:01 AM
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If you have 3 dedicated bomb throwers your raid team is trash
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Well then what do yall do?
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We have 3 2 man teams and change everything in the beginning based off who is empowered. I would rather have everyone scramble for a few seconds in the beginning rather than after the last bomb is thrown to get in position. We always have our empowered in position before the last bomb is thrown so we dont miss a time to stunn. Idk i think my squad is a lil more quick on our feet then most.
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I could have read OP wrong, but doesn't basing throwers off of empower mean you have 3 dedicated throwers? EG either the 3 empowered guys or the 3 unemppwered guys?
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He said nothing like that just dedicated bomb throwers
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Okay. So long as we agree that it's better to dedicate someone as a bomb thrower, even if who that person is is fluid with who does or doesn't have empowerment.
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No i dont agree with dedicated bomb throwers because of random empowered buffs. I would rather split up empowered players left, middle and right before engaging captains. People missing slams causes more wipes than anything so why not prioritize players with empowered buff so they are where they need to be before the last bomb is thrown.
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If you're looking for efficiency then the best route would be to say empowerment is dedicated to one object and then shuffle accordingly. No? You need 1 bomb thrower on each side and 1 empowered person. Those seem like a match. Especially if you are, like you claim to be, sorting empowerment before captains.
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Heres the thing you have to think worst case scenario. What if your cannon holder goes down? Are you gonna wait? What if your bomb thrower goes down? You dont want people thinking "this is my only job" when a lot can go wrong before the captain is down. We have each player ready to grab a bomb or the cannon at any given moment so not too much time is wasted. We also transition very smoothly when the empowered buff comes. We start out with 3 2 man teams just like everyone else but we do one thing different. Lets take right side, if both of us become empowered we appoint 1 person to always go right and the other one to float where theyre needed. Same thing for when neither of us are empowered, 1 always goes right and the other floats. We do this for all 3 teams so we never miss an opportunity to stunn a boss which again is the most important part of this encounter especially if your team isnt that great at putting a lot of dps on the boss.
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Could be, and possibly because you have a dedicated raid team as well. A lot of people lfg for teams, and scrambling even just a bit seems to put them in a tailspin ya know? Like if I had my old VoG team that would be way easier cause we all knew how to communicate and such. Haha whatever works bud.
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By trash do you mean organized? Knowing what job you have and what slack needs to be picked up if someone dies is super important. For instance, last night I was a bomb thrower and also the person on the right who would swap positions if either we both were empowered or neither were. It's less to talk about and call out when a lot is going on.
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Oh were organized we just can adapt to what happens on the fly much faster than most. We dont have dedicated jobs when all 6 of us are dedicated to communication. If the empowered wasnt randomized yes having 3 bomb throwers would be optimal, but its not. The most important phase of this encounter is stunning the boss. If you split the empowered players in the beginning rather than splitting them at the most crucial time when you need to stun the boss really doesnt leave a lot of room for error. You cant argue having the empowered players already in position before the bombs are thrown is a bad idea. Its better to have a minor instance of chaos in the beginning rather during the most crucial part of the encounter. At any moment all 6 of us can do whats needed, whether throw bombs or pick up cannons . I guess my squad can just deal with chaos much better than most. Considering we beat the raid the first day it was out as well as beating it an additional 2 times within 4hrs lol
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How do you get your head through doorways?
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I turn sideways, maybe if you tried my method you would have actually beat aksis ;)
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I'm not disagreeing with your method, just the manner in which you're presenting yourself. Once I find a group that stay calm, it will get done :)
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I get it man im not tryna be a dick, i responded the way i did because of people ive helped and tried to help who think that having three dedicated bomb throwers makes things less chaotic which it doesnt. This raid is meant to be a run and gun and being able to react and stop on a dime. People want it more like other raids where a few people do all the work and they just sit back and snipe. I cant wait for hardmode to come out and everyone bxtches because they cant handle the chaos and there will be no revives lol
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Um, did I say we switch after the bombs are thrown? No. Try to keep up, mr communication.
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Ooooooh im sowwry you see i think worst case scenario considering the empowered is random, i treat this like chess not checkers. So i will elaborate for you so you understand. I was talking about an instance where 2 people are empowered on the same side. when you have 3 dedicated bomb throwers that would mean your 3 2man teams are always together in the beginning aaaaand then switch to where they need to be after the captain is down. In reality when this happens it creates more chaos because you not only have people callling out where the elemental servitors are your asking where you need an empowered person at. There is a 100 different scenarios that i can come up with, that happen, where having 3 dedicated bomb throwers doenst work.
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I don't think you read my response, mr communication. Lol. Try again.
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Grasping at straws are we lol my original post said "if you have 3 dedicated bomb throwers your raid team is trash" you started your response off with "by trash do you mean organized?" There is only 3 types of responses you could have to my original post. 1 you agree with me 2 you disagree with me or 3 you want know how i do the encounter (with such ease). Your response is directed at #2 so i explained it to you. You seem like a troll but its all good ill help your squad do raid one of these days but its gonnnnnnna cost ya
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Dude. You sound like a prick. FYI.
