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Edited by FestiveSnydley:
6/15/2016 2:04:26 PM
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Does anyone else feel like they should buff the defender bubble durability due to the other super's damage increase?
Post Update Edit: It appears that it is still a 2 shot, each dealing 8,000 damage a shot. I'm personally very happy to see that this is the case. Feel free to keep up the discussions everyone. Just make sure to keep it civil. I'm also going to leave the post incase any new onlookers wonder what it was about.
[b][/b]Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the buffs, they were well needed, but I feel like this will make defender less viable in PvP. As is, it takes 2 shots with golden gun to pop a bubble. With the 50% (80%) increase in damage, it could quite possibly make it a 1 hit. It will also almost guarenteed 1 shot someone inside who is affected by Armor of Light. I feel like a slight increase in durability, maybe 20% - 30%, would be beneficial. Thoughts?
Edit: To clarify, the only thing I think needs a buff is the durability, and that's if and only if Ward of Dawn is too easily destroyed because of the update tomorrow. However, other suggestions and discussions are completely welcome. And please, try to be friendly and respectful towards eachover.
400 replies edit: Great discussions so far everyone. My apologies for not being able to reply to everyone, I've been taking a final exam. I don't have one for the next two days so I will be able to discuss with as many people as I can.
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Bubble should be invincible to damage coming from outside but damage dealt from inside should be same as it is now. Think about this one.
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To the testing chambers!!
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1 ReplyMovable bubble
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6 RepliesI'm pretty sure the damage increases only apply to pve. and even if the base damage did apply that's at most 50% more. Nova bombs and fist of havoc's already pop it. and it wouldn't be enough of a damage increase on golden gun in order to pop the bubble in a single hit. You can with nighthawk. But that was possible pre patch.
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No actually I don't, at least not by default - I'd be okay with Armor of Light making it stronger but otherwise they shouldn't make it absorb more punishment, trading 1 super for another is already fair. I do however, feel like the little bit of extra protection you get from activating certain supers should be taken away. Namely, nova bomb & shadow shot, as Fist of Havoc is intentionally hard to stop and Stormtrance, Arcblade and Hammer of Sol are all mobile supers and removing the extra armor would cripple them. But those 1st 2 should not be a "Get out of Jail Free" card. Just like Golden Gun, if you get caught mid-activation before you're ready (or you're just brazenly using it while receiving otherwise lethal damage) you should be punished for blowing your super at a bad time. I'm personally beyond sick of losing a kill just because the other guy sparked their super at the last possible second and then kill me instead because of that momentary increase in armor/damage reduction it's absurd. You shouldn't eat a shotgun to the face/fusion rifle blast/sniper shot /whatever just because you fired the bow like a half second before being hit, it's not a block button. Sorry for the rant that's just been bugging me for some time. I'd like to see some new exotics that mod our supers though, as it's been a while since we got some good ones (I don't think there's even 1 yet for Shadowshot and only 1 each for Hammer and Storm)
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Edited by Swarthy_Grandeur: 6/14/2016 9:16:50 PMThe way supers like Nova Bomb and Golden Gun can add extra damage increases there is a big disadvantage to Ward of Dawn. It should have a 50% health increase and another 25-30 if Bastion is equipped to even things out. Speaking of extra damage, anyone else notice that Death from Above didn't get a damage increase like Lance did for Nova Bomb. I feel it would help in though boss fights.
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2 RepliesI mean I've only ever played Defender in Crucible for S's and G's but if you actively go into game modes like Mayhem (Whatever) with Defender, You deserve a medal of valor.
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2 RepliesDefender bubble lasts too long unlike other class supers. Defender bubble should be shortened. Titan striker mêlée running punch should be Nerfed
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The thing should be invulnerable if you ask me
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2 RepliesIm fine with the durability against all supers but stormcaller. You can break the bubble and kill everyone inside it with tons of time to spare. Haven't played in a while so if I'm wrong tell me.
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[quote]As is, it takes 2 shots with golden gun to pop a bubble. With the 50% (80%) increase in damage, it could quite possibly make it a 1 hit[/quote] This is actually something I really hope bungie realized when they were play testing this patch
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Edited by Wrakz: 6/14/2016 8:04:16 PMI just want to say that among all the cries for buffs and nerfs I seen since day 1, that this is something I literally thought I would NEVER hear. Now I will say you do make a pretty good point though.
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I would like to see a new exotic armor for Titans that would create an unstable bubble. If someone destroyed the bubble then it would nuke an area that would kill other hostile guardians. This exotic could also put a DOT on hostile a that came into the bubble. This would be the best way to keep void walkers and smashing Titans from blindly destroying bubbles.
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This makes sense. hopefully its not a one shot thing and bubbles have to take 181%( becuase that 180 percent increase that could be PvP used) - 200% in terms of old golden gun shots to pop it, as a one shot with two extra bullets would be a little too useful against one of the likely now only supers that can take a shot from GG. Its "Defender" for a reason.
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Also, what about unstoppable for strikers? If you can be one shot with that perk active, whats the using it?
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2 RepliesI don't think defender is good for pvp regardless.
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OMG YES! this is the only thing i'm worried about with the patch.
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#Bubbles4Life
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1 ReplyI think the bubble is more of one time shield against other super ( nova bombs, golden gun). But I think it's should be buffed a bit to accommodate.
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Yea Bungie needs to see this because I don't think they took this into consideration when buffing other attack supers
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Yes! It needs to be buffed!
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I just wish Defenders could get max armor like Strikers.
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Edited by Erijian: 6/14/2016 2:19:19 PMI'm concerned that a Deadeye Golden Gun will one-shot the Ward of Dawn, but we'll see. If it doesn't, Ward of Dawn is fine. Those other Supers already instantly destroyed it anyway.
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5 Repliesthey should give it a perk that makes supers bounce off it. it would be funny to see a warlock shoot a nova bomb at it and then it comes back and hits him in the face.
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15 Repliesare you mad it says damage increase against ai not pvp
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4 RepliesBubble should be a instant cast. There are times when someone is shooting me and i pop my bubble and die. Then when i respawn my super is gone.
