JavaScript is required to use Bungie.net

Destiny

Discuss all things Destiny.
Edited by EyelessKnight: 4/9/2016 9:52:36 PM
608

RIP, King's Fall (AMMO SHORTAGE INCOMING)

Wow, guys. Just, wow. We are now going to run out of sniper ammo insanely fast when fighting [i]all[/i] the bosses. "Ok, I'll use my quillim's terminus!", you say? Yeah, nope. They nerfed that too. This was not the way to go, guys. I'm constantly running out of ammo every damage cycle on the War Priest and every time in the Shade phase of the Oryx battle as it is [b][u]now[/u][/b]. This is going to increase raid difficulty and let the more effective players do even less to make up for their less accurate brethren. 2 cycle war priest? Not anymore. 2 cycle Golgy? Idk, I usually run the gaze, but I doubt that too. Finish the Shade reliably? Nope! Now we're going to [i]need[/i] weapons of light and tethers in the shade. FML, bungie. I like both PvE and PvP. But you guys really, [u]really[/u] don't give a damn about PvE'ers, do you? I don't do these rants, but damn. I raid three times a week and i have to endure wipe after wipe already caused by random PUG guys who just aren't [i]quite[/i] awesome at the stuff. Now the struggle bus is gonna throw another axle bearing, thanks to this retarded "Oh, people are getting sniped. Let's nerf ammo into the freaking ground!" solution of of yours. GG, Bungie. GG. Edit: Because some people either don't understand how the raid boss battles work or how ammunition works with them. [b][u]For those who are going to post that the special drops are being increased, read the next section about how the King's Fall raid boss battles work:[/u][/b] [u]Basically, King's Fall was [i]designed[/i] around standing as a group basically in one spot and putting lots of highly concentrated damage on the target down range in a short window of time. Snipers are obviously the way to do this with the most efficiency because all of these targets have precision or critical damage spots. While you are standing in these "Put damage on target" zones, it is usually not possible to move around and pick up ammo that dropped somewhere else on the map, nor is it advisable to enter the menu to "pop a synth".[/u] And keep in mind, ammo synthesis have that 5:00 minute cooldown timer. So I can't see how we're not going to be digging heavily into primary ammo for these, with our special and heavy exhausted, once the patch goes in. [i]I, personally[/i] already do this now quite often. I don't see how this doesn't translate into [i]at least[/i] lower damage against raid bosses per damage cycle. Edit: Changed title to better reflect the topic content and added relevant tags. Somebody said this needs to get addressed. Let's go, guys! Git 'er done! Be loud and obnoxious! Edit: Afterthought that I'm not really against the sniper [i]"tuning"[/i] for the crucible. That said, I have never seen somebody with full sniper ammo break the game. Edit: Over 2,000 posts in this thread, folks. We were atop the trending list for about 36 hours. Nobody more important than Xur has bothered to stop by. You'd think at least Butthurt would be around by now. Edit: TL:DR... The sniper ammo nerf is going to negatively affect the KF boss fights. We need to snipe the bosses a lot really fast while not running around picking up all the ammo that's going to be raining from the sky or having time to pop a synth.

Posting in language:

 

Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Once again PvE suffers because of PvP

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • That's why I love shoot to loot on my Eirene RR4.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    4 Replies
    • This is why raiding is terrible. Cant wait for PoE so i can get to 335 easier

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

      1 Reply
      • Moan moan moan that's all people ever do on here. Shut up. Play the god damn game. and enjoy it. don't see why people have to moan about stuff constantly XD

        Posting in language:

         

        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

        5 Replies
        • WoW? Over a raid that is boring as hell and as easy as it is irrelevant? I think most will be able to either move on or figure it out.

          Posting in language:

           

          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

          1 Reply
          • Why would you do raid when the POE challenge will be faster to start as you only need to find a total of 3 players and drops max light gear.

            Posting in language:

             

            Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

            5 Replies
            • Edited by T-Revski: 4/9/2016 2:36:55 PM
              no ammo.... no players.... wonder when they will see the light....no ammo equals no fun...

              Posting in language:

               

              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

              1 Reply
              • They said special ammo will drop MORE in PvE? Are you saying that there will now be ammo crates in the raid? 😂

                Posting in language:

                 

                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                6 Replies
                • Screw Kings Fall... IB, Trials, and PoE FTW!

                  Posting in language:

                   

                  Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                  24 Replies
                  • It's a simple and effective way to make already existing content artificially harder. I guess, they want to counter the power gain through the light lv increase without needing to adjust the raid. Mission complete, I guess. Whether I like that approach is a totally different story, though... Somehow, I miss the old days, were you actually became stronger and new gear/weapons felt rewarding. Now you need to run the hamster wheel all day to barely keep the same power level (if at all). Not actually my definition of incentive...

                    Posting in language:

                     

                    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                    1 Reply
                    • They said more special bricks would drop to compensate for the lower ammo count.

                      Posting in language:

                       

                      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                      2 Replies
                      • Running night fall add me for invite

                        Posting in language:

                         

                        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                        1 Reply
                        • If Defiance can separate how much ammo you get in reserves for PvP and not affect PvE at all, Destiny can too.

                          Posting in language:

                           

                          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                          5 Replies
                          • Awww.......What's wrong? Mad mommy Bungie isn't there to hold your hand through the whole raid? Afraid to put a little skill and effort into it instead of running right through it with as much ammo as you want and everything you need to make it as easy as possible? A word of advice.....Never play a Dark souls game.

                            Posting in language:

                             

                            Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            9 Replies
                            • They should have separate things for PvP and PvE it makes no sense why they don't but still there should be more of a challenge then just sniping a guy over and over

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            • I agree. Every Time they rebalance, pve gets a little harder. With the exception of the shot gun buff with HoW. Maybe shorten the time on the synth cool down to help us out.

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            • Subscribe to me on YouTube/ StayHot

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            • Edited by boff: 4/9/2016 1:14:19 PM
                              People complained and rightly so when short range weapons such as shotguns had to much range, nerfed and rightly so.....people complained year 1 tlw had to much range for a supposedly short range weapon and it got nerfed and rightly so, people are now complaining the doctrine has to much range and should be reduced......so people are complaining about short range weapons have to much range, so to me it makes complete sense that people would also complain when a long range weapon is working effectly outside of its intended range.....making snipers harder to use at close range makes complete sense. As for ammo reduction for snipers in pve....that's a crock of shit...I think the warpriest and grufillo will be fine, but its the Oryx battle im concerned about with the orgres, knight's,vessel and the mini orxy in a bubble battle to contend with having less heavy and special is gunna be tough especially if TOM is equipped as a primary.

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            • Heard this and just disappointed. Seriously the whiny retards can't adapt and have to complain to make Bungie their hoe . For those that say it's about the journey and not the destination you can stfu coz not everybody wants to spend 3 hrs plus on a boss or raid when it really only takes 45 mins to complete. Also some of us have life's and don't want to no life this game when there's more important things to do . Really how hard is it to separate PVE and PVP . Other MMOs do it like DCUO . You have your PVE gear and PVP gear separate and when you use say PVE gear in PVP you'll get wreck and vice versa.

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                              1 Reply
                              • Make the perk on black spindle not draw the ammo from our reserves! Return that perk to its original state!

                                Posting in language:

                                 

                                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                                2 Replies
                                • Buff the ammo synths. Instead of 5, make it 2 or 3.

                                  Posting in language:

                                   

                                  Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                                  1 Reply
                                  • This. One solution would be to add more precision damage to all snipers. This wouldn't change anything in PVP significantly but would definitely help offset the ammo shortage during PvE. This way even with less ammo we could still get the job done on the boss in similar time. Just with less work :-)

                                    Posting in language:

                                     

                                    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                                    8 Replies
                                    • Thanks for underlining the part about the raid. I had no idea you had to stand and shoot stuff.

                                      Posting in language:

                                       

                                      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                                    • Bumpity Bungo dang messed up

                                      Posting in language:

                                       

                                      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                                    • -blam!- yeah HAWKMOON

                                      Posting in language:

                                       

                                      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                                    • Balls to King's Fall, having less sniper ammo/quillims ammo is going to make a ballache even more of a ballache. Stupid decision and i'm not sure how this is really going to stop the prevalence of snipers in PVP. It's just going to hurt PVE and even if Bungie revert the changes after realising it was a mistake (though they won't say it, they'll just say "Increase special ammo reserves"), it'll still take 4-5 months for them to actually do it. Bad move Bungie, bad move.

                                      Posting in language:

                                       

                                      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                                    2 3 4 5 6 7 8
                                    You are not allowed to view this content.
                                    ;
                                    preload icon
                                    preload icon
                                    preload icon