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Edited by Genieblood4:
3/6/2016 8:29:42 PM
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1K Yard Stare
So, many of you hate this gun. You see so much of it in the game, it seems everyone uses it and that it's overpowered. You're tired of looking up at the person who killed you and seeing the name of this gun in the corner of the screen. There's just one little problem though, so let's take a look at its archetype the high impact sniper and other guns like it. The pros of this weapon type are the ability to rez snipe and 1 shot active supers, but they shoot slower and [b]generally[/b] have less aim assist. Things like Weyloran's March have a bit more.
So it seems like a strong gun, and it is. The meta is slow and Sniper rifles are pretty much the only thing that haven't been nerfed, making it a good choice. But the real reason you see so much of this particular gun is because [b]theres nothing else to use[/b] and it's so accessible.
In the Taken King, there's only 3 other high impact legendary or exotic snipers: Eirene, Black Spindle, and Stillpiercer. And each one of these guns has problems.
[b][u]Eirene: [/u][/b]has weird scopes and a near lack of aim assist that drives off beginning snipers.
[b][u]Black Spindle:[/u][/b] has a special mission you must complete typically with other people only at specific times and it uses up your exotic slot.
[b][u]Stillpiercer[/u][/b] can only be used by hunters.
Meanwhile we have the 1000-Yard Stare that has good aim assist, is easy to get from a quest or a vendor, can drop from engrams or packages, and can be used by anyone alongside a powerful exotic.
So, TL;DR? We need more high impact snipers.
[spoiler]In b4 salt[/spoiler]
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#Destiny
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I love how literally no one complained about mida back in the day because of the other options we had but now since they are all gone it's good. Same principle, there is no options but that doesn't mean it's OP it's just OU.
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I miss my LDR 5001, and if I can use that over the stare I would.
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3 RepliesHopefully people will see that overused isn't overpowered
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8 RepliesEdited by Darches: 3/7/2016 10:05:07 PMWe have [b]3 expansions of legendary guns that Bungie has removed[/b]. Think about that. There's a wide variety of guns but they've been Taken (TM). Keep paying Bungie, and they'll keep taking content away, even if it wasn't originally cut from the game. There's only 2 rapid AR's in TTK. The only remaining competitive AR's in the game. They're Doctrine and Arminius. The only legendary shotgun in TTK that can max it's range is Party Crasher +1. Aside from this, the flawless campaign C. Theory, and Invective, all other shotguns are basically unusable in all modes right now. Most HC's now have shit range, with a few rare exceptions. Other than the extremely rare and basically unusable Spare Change.25, and the poor 4-burst Lyudmila-D, high impact pulse rifles no longer exist in the game. Since the Hopscotch nerf the only viable high impact PR's since HoW would be a flawlessly rolled HoW Spare Change, and The Messenger (which is kinda poor since 2.0 perk nerfs). Scouts are actually doing fine in TTK, though I think there's only DIS-47 and Cocytus for fast/slow firing variants. Most other scouts are in the VoC archtype (not that it's bad or anything). The trials PR, scout, shotgun, FR, and LMG are trash. The HC and sniper are decent. The RL is good. The AR is awesome.
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14 RepliesSorry, other side of the fence here. I switched from 1k stare to still piercer for 1 solid week. Guess what I found out? I suck at sniping without 1k stare. Discuss....
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3 RepliesEye of sol is a great sniper with really good perks. Ldr is a really good sniper with random perks but has high impact. My point here is that 90% of people have no idea that eye of sol was the year one trials sniper because of its low impact, but most people know exactly what the ldr is. We don't need more variety in high impact snipers, we just need more incentive to use other archetypes of snipers.
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I had too much Yard Stare choices. Ambush Army of One Snapshot Outlaw Shortgaze Underdog Perfect Balance Firefly Shortgaze Army of One Rifle Barrel HH Viewtac Last Resort Snapshot Outlaw
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I prefer eirene, don't like 1kys.
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3 RepliesI hope they add in more strike exclusives, one of which being a reskinned Shadow of Veils. A reskinned Praedyth's Revenge would be cool too.
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1 ReplyI actually love Eirene. It is definitely my go to.
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8 RepliesTL;DR Sniper Rifles are too strong currently. Either nerf them, or buff everything else.
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It's all the game wants to give me. It's fine, as I suck/don't like sniping, and tend to stick with fusion rifles. Well, one fusion, the Thesan FR.
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IMO the 1k stare is not as snappy and as accurate as my favorite snipers from yr 1. Purely subjective this assessment is though. I used to choose my sniper based on the color of the lines and dot on the scope in relation to the background colors on the map being played. I believe that aim assist may help one get a hit when it may have been a little bit off but on the flipside too much aim assist throws off my aim when shooting at an opponent while another opponent crosses the view as it seems like there is a magnet that pulls my aim to the other player. I think people just want to complain and such is life. The main problem with any online PVP is lag and as long as there is distance between the participants there will be the potential for lag until we all have google wire or something similar.
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4 RepliesCheck out this Stillpiercer no scope headshot through a wall. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6lYc14JmJJ0
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Completely agree. I've tried all 4 of the high impact snipers in crusible. Eirene feels weird (hate the scopes available), black spindle makes it so I can't use by MIDA, and i can only use the stillpiercer on my hunter (which I do). So, 1kYS is my only realistic option for shutting down supers in pvp.
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Y1 iron banner sniper for regular pvp eirine for light level content
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I agree, they should buff fusion rifles.
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Black Spindle for pve, 1k for pvp.
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3 RepliesGot lucky today... Spent 150 legendary marks and got a gem. On my Titan. 1K yard stare with ambush, last resort, small bore and hidden hand.
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Damn. The only 1000 yard stare post that actually makes sense.[spoiler]logic makes a big difference [/spoiler]
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4 RepliesAgreed. We need more of everything really.
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3 RepliesLow impact snipers should get double the ammo from crates, not the same as a high impact one.
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It's true. I'm a year 2 player. The eirene has a weird scope Black spindle isn't used because I don't have a god roll on a legendary wep(rather use an exotic primary). Stillpiercer I used but only can use it on my hunter 1k stare everyone gets from the quest with a good perks(same goes with conspiracy theory) everyone has those because they have good perks right off the quest. I seen lots of snipers from year 1 players being used in normal crucible and I wish there was a variety of high impact snipers for players to use in year 2. I also want new exotic snipers, there's only one and it's mostly used for the raid(because of it's perks, we have no exotic sniper with unique perks). I want a year 2 exotic sniper that's unique to pvp.
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9 RepliesRez sniping shouldn't be a thing.. Gives us more high impact snipers but at a 3 sec immunity sheild upon being revived that allows you to take 0 damage and deal 0 damage for that 3 secs. True skill comes in the form of killing someone then kill the other 2 players before they revive their mate. Not camping and hitting still headshot over and over. Imo
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2 RepliesOr make other snipers better? Saying: this item is too good, let's have ten items the same so people don't notice the same thing being overused... That's treating the symptom of the problem, not the cause.
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1 ReplyEdited by Cipher 064: 3/6/2016 10:31:44 PMFunny thing is that my LDR 5001 has slightly more impact (because of armour piercing rounds), but the same general stats as 1000-Yard Stare (ROF is exactly the same for both weapons), so I almost never have the need to use 1000-Yard Stare... [spoiler]...unless I do trials and fail miserably at it[/spoiler]
