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Edited by Art Vandelay: 3/1/2016 2:15:13 AM
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Why is the existence of aliens a "tinfoil hat" scenario, but religion is considered normal?

Religion is just as much of a conspiracy theory as the existence of aliens is. But at least there have actually been UFO sightings and crashes to further prove this, rather then just a 2000 year old book that could have been lost in translation, edited on one's own interpretation, or could have just been fictional from the start. Next time you pray or go to church, be sure to wear your tinfoil hat.
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  • "2000" year old book. There is your answer Religion has been around longer then the Alien Conspiracy

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    • UFO sightings are one thing. Don't forget that flying objects lacking identification are most likely of terrestrial origin. As for crash sites? Well I'd be exceedingly sceptical of claims about any alien craft with a living crew, crashing here. Here's the problem. Einsteins theories have stood up to every observation thrown at them for a century. According to his theories, for any object with Mass to reach the speed of light, would require infinite energy. Apart from the fact that there isn't this amount of energy available in the entire Universe, there is also the problem of infinite density. The faster an object is travelling, the more mass it has, because the energy that propels it is added to it's mass. The equation for density is mass over volume. No object has infinite volume, and if you divide infinity by any finite number, you still have infinity. This any massive object that travels at the speed of light, will have infinite density, and while I'm no doctor, I highly doubt anyone will survive it. As for space craft capable of creating wormholes....there is no reason for the ground to come up and hit them.

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      • Alien religions make it even more abnormal.

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      • Aliens almost certainly exist, "God" however almost certainly does not exist.

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        • Religion has been around longer, and was accepted by more people. It's too much of an institution to be treated as conspiracy theory.

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        • I most certainly believe alien life exists. I don't think anyone seen any UFOs that were alien. The distance is so much it's not worth the trip.

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        • Because one is ingrained into people from birth.

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        • Edited by Hel Ines: 3/2/2016 11:15:31 PM
          Ha good one heathen

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        • If you want the short version, social conditioning, predisposition towards established traditions, the need to explain the unexplainable, and the human ego. If you want the long version, first off, religion has been a part of human culture since as far back as recollection. It wasn't always Christianity, it wasn't always Judaism, it wasn't always Hinduism, and so on and so forth, but there has always been a level of superstition and belief in the paranormal and supernatural. You can find it on the earliest cave paintings, in the young days of civilization, and even now, hence the discussion of this topic. And as a result, the majority of us are socially conditioned to accept this behavior as normal. It survived as tradition, and continues because we accept it as tradition. It also serves as a way for us to "fill in the gaps" of what we don't understand, while we still look for more easily understood answers. One reason for the aforementioned predisposition towards superstitious beliefs, is simply that back then we had very little practical knowledge of the world around us. So as a result, we created gods, monsters and demons to explain natural phenomena and answer questions we simply didn't have the answers to yet. In a way this still persists today, since even though our knowledge of the universe has vastly expanded over time, there is still a massive amount of information we lack. And lastly, the human ego. We are special, we are chosen, we are unique. The concept of having some all-powerful deity that created us is an extension of this sentiment, because it places some divine level of importance on our species and our existence. It provides a sense of meaning and purpose in a universe that honestly couldn't care less that we're here, on this comparatively miniscule speck, floating in a vast cosmos much larger than any of us could fully comprehend. There are other psychological roots I could probably point out that could explain why we're so predisposed to the concept of religion, but I feel like that's sufficient for the time being.

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          • Edited by gsRuckus: 3/2/2016 9:08:11 PM
            I've never seen Trump and Tinfoil in the same room. Trump = Tinfoil??????????1?1???/?/?/?

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          • Because aliens can read your minds and tinfoil stops that? Op, do you know what you're talking about

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            • Edited by Urban Shade: 3/1/2016 7:30:31 PM
              According to the history channel, our religions are based off aliens that visited earth long ago. [i]Aliens[/i] [spoiler]OFC I don't know what to believe, people back then were pretty creative and anything can be over analyzed.[/spoiler]

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              • Ancient aliens is on the history channel now so I figure it's about as normal as religion [spoiler]i want to believe[/spoiler]

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                • because Aliens

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                • Yep

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                • How can tin foil be real if our eyes arent real?

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                    What do you think will happen when we do find aliens? There will of course be some religious fanatics (looking at you creationists) who deny they exist, but what else? Will it lead to war, or perhaps world peace? Just curious what other people think.

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                    • Edited by LahDsai: 3/2/2016 2:18:20 AM
                      [quote]... there have actually been UFO sightings and crashes to further prove this...[/quote] There have been sightings, blurry photos and shaky videos, but nothing to "prove" their existence. Likewise people have had sightings, blurry photos and shaky videos of Bigfoot, mermaids, el Chupacabra, unicorns, leprechauns and angels. I don't think the "tin-foil hat" crowd is people who believe life is out there as much as much as those who think we've been visited and are of "particular" ([i]*cough* anal probe *cough*[/i]) interest to these visitors. I think religion is a bit more accepted for two reasons: [u]A[/u]) It's been such a huge player in the shaping of human culture for thousands of years that it's near impossible to remove it at this point. [u]B[/u]) Unlike extra terrestrials, religion largely resides outside the realm of science. It asks questions that science cannot answer: [i]Why are we here? What does my life mean? What becomes of us, not just our bodies but [b]us[/b], when we die?[/i] The best answers science can give are: [i](Q1&2) There's no "reason", we're just the end result of a continuous and seemingly random chain of events. (Q3) Nothing. [b]We[/b] cease and our bodies decay back into its base components.[/i] We have evolved, however, in a way that our minds will always try to make sense of things. We seek reasons. Saying, "That's just how it is," isn't always sufficient. Because of that, many don't view religion and science (and "God" and "aliens" by proxy) as being comparable (or even inclusive). Belief or disbelief in one follows a different way of thinking than belief or disbelief in the other.

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                    • The existence of aliens is almost certain. Given the sheer size of the universe, for there not to be other life would be almost impossible, and is extremely improbable.

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                      • Edited by Diver2441: 3/2/2016 1:13:49 AM
                        Because nobody is willing to admit that quite literally everyone is wearing a tinfoil hat for fear of wearing one themselves. [spoiler]god was a mushroom and UFO's are just your ego[/spoiler]

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                      • There's most likely other life out there but probably face the same dilemma we do, making transport capable of traveling long distances across space. So odds are we'll never meet them.

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                        • Because aliens are allergic to tin foil... Priests are not.

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                        • Because tin foil doesn't exist.

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                            Religion

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                          • Edited by Mudpilot: 3/1/2016 10:33:00 PM
                            *Holds back kamikaze llama* Well mate no one can really say for certain what's real and what's not

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                          • Edited by ookshmook: 3/1/2016 7:28:40 PM
                            Because all "aliens have landed on earth" People are paranoid. There historically [i]was[/i] a jesus, who's parents were a mary, and Joseph. Whether he was [i]son of god[/i] or not is debatable, but there is [i]no[/i] evidence for aliens on earth

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