Nerfing the 2 most reliable counters to sniper rifles, notably shotguns and Pulse Rifles, will make it as such that Snipers will have an overbearing map presence.
Sniper rifles will need to have new mechanics added to compensate for that.
Be it descoping when getting shot (you know, like this one unknown and irrelevant shooter does for decades now. I think they call it Halo), having innate sway and forcing you to hold your breath or something similar. Massively increased zoom sizes across the board and the removal of the 0.5x scopes could be another option as well.
Nerfing PRs will have a net increase of TTK as a consequence. Giving snipers even more time to get a kill, even though they messed up.
This gets worse, given the fact that PRs now will have significant damage drop off as well. Significant as in, finally noticeable.
Auto Rifles will not be in a state to compete with Snipers given the numbers, and the only semi reliable (the rest was unusable) Handcannon to do so, the Hawkmoon, will get a huge nerf to the range and lucky bullets.
I absolutely see nothing that would allow primaries to meaningfully compete with sniper rifles, when the next round of nerfs come in December.
So I basically demand Bungie to be proactive and nerf sniper rifles or add mechanics in advance that will help to balance them, instead of waiting until March to nerf them into oblivion.
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Remove aim assist from snipers ;)
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26 RepliesEdited by Zont 26: 11/25/2015 8:52:29 AM1k stare is OP, you know something is wrong when EVERYONE uses it Edit: Okay everyone you can chill you have good salty evidence Edit 2: OKAY I GET IT SHUT UP NOW, I see your reasons
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Fk sake he's crying for a nerf after dec nerf already, wonder why the games fkd.
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Edited by McLovinxx1: 11/25/2015 7:31:06 AMI totally agree, sniping in this game is way to easy
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11 RepliesLOL balance snipers you mean the things that are perfectly balanced people bitch about aa when it just makes your crosshair sticky people bitch about scopes when they have perfect zoom Its ridiculous people get killed by 1 gun and they bitch and call for nerfs
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I'd say buff the other secondaries to make them all equal. Right now snipers and shotguns are really the only options. Now with shotguns being destroyed, and side arms getting virtually nothing to help them, snipers will be the best option (I don't know how well fusion rifles will become). I personally think that shotguns are good right now except they needed slight range nerf on the high impact ones. But other than that they were really close to balanced. Side arms need help, possibly an accuracy buff, and allow full auto to roll on them. Snipers are pretty good right now, just give them competitors for the special slot.
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If shotguns and pulse rifles are counters to sniper rifles so are...auto rifles, sidearms, scouts, and fusion rifles because you gotta get close to medium range with those too
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I've got a good counter to destinys snipers- the small map sizes of 95% of the maps in the game
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1 ReplyI'd be ok with the descoping if they also added no-scoping...
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And the thing is, snipers are working great. This is ridiculous.
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Everybody says sniping takes skills. Yes it does when you hit head shots consistently. But it doesn't take any kind of skills to land 2 body shots. That's probably what a lot of people are going to do after the December patch. It's going to make crucible slow as blam. Hoping for the best though.
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4 RepliesMIDA is coming. Snipers are performing exactly as they are supposed to. You shotguns scrubs are just now noticing
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7 RepliesThis threads wins. Bungie won't be able to ignore the easy mode snipers they keep making once the patch comes. Hopefully they'll be nerfed and altered in some way, shotguns went through like 4 nerfs. I predict multiplayer dying even more since they will basically turn the game into a campfest
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1 ReplySnipers should be less accurate the longee you stay scoped in, they should add some sort of sway
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Hahahaa bye bye shotguns and now suffer the new meta crucible SNIPER FEST
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[quote]I absolutely see nothing that would allow primaries to meaningfully compete with sniper rifles, when the next round of nerfs come in December. [/quote] Are you serious almost every single map caters directly to the shotgun user. It's all I get killed by anymore. Snipers are in the perfect place with it being a 1 shot head shot with Fine scopes and mechanics. Primaries are not supposed to be able to compete with snipers at long range with the exception of scouts.
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3 RepliesEdited by Garp: 11/25/2015 1:25:16 AMYou don't know shit bro. You haven't played the December update, so you're basing this assumption off of patch notes. Remember when we got patch notes for 2.0, and everyone thought Hardlight would be the new meta? And now no one used it
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Go away
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1 Reply[quote]Nerfing the 2 most reliable counters to sniper rifles, notably shotguns and Pulse Rifles, will make it as such that Snipers will have an overbearing map presence. [/quote] Lol. Pulse rifles aren't meant for long distances. And shotgun...uhhh lol. I think you should be a comedian. Oh but....remember? The thing called...uh scoot rifle I think...idk. tht thing is for long range, yes. Oaf.
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Best counter for sniper rifles: learn to use one. I'm not saying this as an elitist or being a dick, I've been practicing improving my sniping lately and getting into a long distance sniper fight is actually really fun! Or just find a scout you like and practice bobbing and weaving while shooting at long range.
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1 ReplyShortgaze/Ambush should start at 6.5x. All scopes adjusted accordingly.
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2 RepliesHow about stay out of the one or two sniping lanes in each map? (Some maps don't even have any)
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3 Replies"This account has not played destiny"
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1 ReplyHow about everyone just plays with sticks and stones, but not big sticks. Only twigs. I dont agree with the shotgun nerfs or incoming sniper nerfs but whatever, soon people will figure out that when it comes to gaming its really how good the player is, i bet people will still find something to cry about shotguns after patch as well because people will still use them just as good as they are now, they will dind a way to still use them effectively.
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2 RepliesYou dont know shit about balance stop complaining. Snipers are the exact same as they've been since vanilla.
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Halo snipers can hipfire...