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Edited by l MC BENNETT l: 11/14/2015 6:29:52 AM
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So ToM is now a requirement.

Can't do hard raid cuz I don't have ToM. If you need 6 on your team you mustn't be very good. Edit: 11/14/15 Beat oryx on hard with a group that only had 3 malices. Suck it haters!
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  • I done hard oryx with Tlaloc and it does well when keeping super up as a sunsinger

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    • I never state that I have Tom when I post for groups. Does it matter? Not really. Is it easier with it? Heck yes. I three manned last bit of oryx. Wouldn't have been able to if we all didn't have touch.

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    • Makes it easier Proves you beaten the raid Shows you're a player with some level of dedication. Agree it's not 100% needed.

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    • It's not needed but you have no excuse not to have one. It's not rng.

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    • I quit destiny a little while ago but if you don't have touch of malice yet then you just don't deserve to play hard mode seeing how you can get malice in 5 hours of grind

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      • Get some friends to run with or get the gun, stop complaining lol

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      • Edited by nearlight: 11/14/2015 5:03:19 AM
        Don't you need to do kf to get ToM

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      • Stop being a lazy piece of tootsie roll and get the touch.

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      • I've done most of the quest but its so funny. To get TOM you have to do the raid -Must have ToM to join our group

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        • You know, in all the raid groups I have been in there has not once been a time where anyone was kicked for not having a malice. This includes the clears during the week the new content dropped (when everyone was under leveled and it was actually seriously helpful). Tbh, I can kill all 4 ogres using my malice and blessings alone. It really shouldn't be a requirement anymore. It's more symbolic of showing how serious a person is about the raid. The quest is super quick/easy and shows a level of commitment to a team. I am not saying other gear is not indicative of a commitment. I am just saying the ToM is more of a right of passage.

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        • Hell in getting it now because of peer pressure. Sick of hearing about it. Guess it's time.

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        • I had 21 fragments yesterday, said screw it pulled up a YouTube guide and had touch of malice in an hour

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        • You must not be very good because it is not a RNG weapon stop being a bitch and put the time in

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          • Tom is just a -blam!-ing person!

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          • The reason why is two fold : 1- because it's not an RNG weapon, so it just takes some grinding. No excuse not to have it. 2- even though it's not really needed it helps beating oryx tremendously...especially the fact that if someone dies 5 TOm or even 4 Tom can still make him flinch.

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            • Edited by tWZtD x23: 11/13/2015 11:55:51 PM
              Just do the damn quest and stop ruining an already screwed up game, because your the 3rd post I have seen about this

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            • It should be

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            • Instead of spending time crying on forums, go get one its not hard

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            • Why don't you have it? It's pretty easy to get. If you don't meet peoples expectations don't be mad.

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            • A good alternative to Tom is No time to Explain. Try getting that.

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              • Ha-ha, it's ridiculous. I have all three classes above 310, and no ToM. I've completed the Raid on hard with all three of my characters, and when I use myTitan I always do ad control! This whole "you need a ToM" is bs.

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                • You don't need it, but it's the Dps king for Oryx and Sisters. If you're just being hard headed and not spending the 45 minutes it takes to get it.... how can you complain about players who did work for it not wanting to raid with you? It's not hard to get, It's an awesome gun. No RNG involved.

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                • Dude... Just go get it. You need to beat normal. Kill a couple specific dudes and farm a little. You could do it in less than a week

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                • Well then you should go find a group that is good

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                • You have a point...you don't need 6 Toms' to beat hard mode but my question to you is...did you beat normal mode? This is ur fault because you just haven't put in the time to do the quest line if you have beaten it on normal.

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                • I'm missing a single fragment from the raid even if I had this frag and got it I would just infuse it into a diff primary [spoiler]because if I even planned to do the raid again it would be with friends who have fun and not req a weapon[/spoiler]

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