Sorry not all of us have lives that revolve around lurking here. I never said you CANNOT COUNTER A PULSE. I said they are blatantly more powerful than every other weapon archetype. It's pretty hard to argue against that man, EVERYONE in the crucible isn't using them because they are super cool or something.... I hate them but I'm still using them because they are ungodly at the moment. Luke Smith said in an interview that he thinks it would be interesting for each weapon type to have an "age." Like autos had their time, then hand cannons, and now it is the time of the pulse. I think this isn't interesting, it's lazy balancing. Nobody wants to go into a crucible match of ALL PULSE RIFLES. Got news for you too bud, unless you are talking about hawkmoon, hand cannons suck and aren't a counter for anything really. Autos get beat by pulse rifles in close range all the time, though it takes a [i]little[/i] skill to do so (keyword: little). And not all of us are about that dumbass Rambo-runs-straight-at-you play style that shotguns are currently being used for. You're telling me to counter pulse rifles with a -blam!-ing heavy. You know, the weapon that you get ammo for once or twice a match? Sad thing is that a hawksaw prob has a faster time to kill than those machine guns you mentioned too. You didn't win shit buddy. Only thing you won is the award for looking like a forum jackass with arguments that don't really add up. TL;DR Always funny hearing how bad I am coming from someone with worse stats. Why would I take crucible advice from a scrub anyway?