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Edited by Dionysus XIII:
10/11/2015 5:43:11 AM
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Gas Giants Can't be Terraformed
Common misconception: It is in fact, not possible.
For those of you that knew this already, congratulations, this world still has hope.
For those of you that think it is possible: you are - sadly - not alone.
Edit-1: Just looked at these responses. It seems that the most common explanation as to why you could terraform Jupiter happens to be: "[i]space magic[/i]"
Touché Guardians, touché.
Edit-2: For those of you that are wise enough to know that the Gas Giants are not gaseous all the way through, that is awesome for you! There is no need to repeatedly tell me that, because I'm well aware of that. Still doesn't change my feelings on terraforming Jupiter or the like.
Edit-3: Wow, just checked the trending page of the forums and found this on there with 1.2K comments. Didn't realize that many people responded to this. That being said, I would like to thank the academy for this honor as well as all the internet trolls, wanna-be Neil deGrasse Tysons, and idiots. I couldn't have done it without you.
Edit-4: For those of you claiming that we could just solidify the gas, here's my explanation as to why you should all go think of better things to do than argue with my pretentious ass:
Take Jupiter for example: it is made of primarily molecular hydrogen and helium. If you used temperature to "un-sublime" or solidify the gas into a solid surface of sorts, you have to incorporate the melting temperature of the mostly hydrogen and helium atmosphere.
For starters, the temperature to solidly molecular hydrogen is around 14K.
[spoiler]If you didn't know, that's like negative 259 Celsius and is almost at absolute zero.[/spoiler]
Helium is even lower at a whopping 1K
Account in melting point depression phenomenon of non-pure substances and we have a real issue… lol
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Edited by Joy Boy: 11/4/2015 12:00:53 AM-Mechanical floating allegory of Jesus - Time bots -Cockroach pirates -Ever hungry monster zombies with a bad case of worms, that eats light and kill each other for ascension -Blue people with God complexes. - Armored galactic turtles/5th Element species -Russian opera loving Skynet, with a love/hate relationship with existence. - Undead Space Soldiers .....and the gas giant that shouldn't be terraformed, is the only thing that bothers you? Well done good sir. Well done.
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1 ReplyJet fuel can't melt steel beams!
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8 RepliesWhat about some, yet unknown, catalytic reaction where that gas is converted "en masse" into some kind of solid? Still wouldn't be soil, but a step in the right direction..
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Nah I terraformed one when I was 11. It's easy.
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Space magic.
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1 ReplyFirst we have to assume a civilization has developed the necessary tech to terraform anything. Then we have to find a way to get rid of all the gas and liquid-metallic atmosphere. The bigger problem is what the hell do you do with all that mass? Then, why the hell would the civilization bother? There are plenty of moons around said gas giants that are vastly more suited for terraforming. Then, the problem is how to make a planet outside the goldy locks zone survivable. Not worth the trouble.
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We might not be able to walk on jupiter, but she does a craptillion number moons we [i]could[/i] walk on... All will have that awesome panorama of jupiter in the background, and i can live with that..
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what about holding a station in atmo via tether?
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1 ReplyWell, you could always introduce an astronomically large amount of pressure.
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Edited by Tedward83: 11/3/2015 2:31:16 AMWe're zombie space warriors who get resurrected repeatedly and have magic powers. That's not really "possible" either.
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Light the god damn thing on fire. If I can light a fart I can burn a planet.
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3 RepliesI'd love to start a nuclear reaction near the core of Saturn, just to see if it turned into a star, even for a little bit. Disclaimer, yes, I know that Saturn and Jupiter lack the mass to become stars, otherwise they would have been already.
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5 RepliesIm guessing you're a virgin?
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Although they have a liquid core it could mean that the traveler could have made their cores solid. Or it could mean that it terra formed their moons
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2 RepliesBut if I shuttled 356 trillion cubic miles of soil, BOOM. Now it can be terraformed. You're welcome.
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3 RepliesI bet you had a hard time at high school parties.
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Because video game, -blam!- you[spoiler]yes, this is a joke[/spoiler]
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Nerd fest 2015
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What does this have to do with anything destiny
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Of course you can't terraform a gas giant. It's a gas giant!
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2 Replies[quote]Common misconception: It is in [b][i]fact[/i][/b], not possible. .... Edit-2: For those of you that are wise enough to know that the Gas Giants are not gaseous all the way through, that is awesome for you! There is no need to repeatedly tell me that, because I'm well aware of that. Still doesn't change my [b][i]feelings[/i][/b] on terraforming Jupiter or the like. [/quote] Just throwing that out there. Feelings =/= fact.
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Fusion. Invading Alien army uses hydrogen and helium as fuel for operations in the area, with a byproduct of creating heavier and heavier elements through nuclear fusion. these heavier elements gather near the center of gravity of the planet, and begin to form a solid mass. This would take millions of years, but given the Vex have the ability to change/suspend time, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. Also, its a video game.
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2 RepliesGases can turn into solids, just saying
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3 RepliesThat fourth edit. Most people fail to realise that in order to solidify helium (quite the common gas in the universe), you will need to achieve absolute zero, a completely theoretical temperature. Even with all these technological advancements of the golden age, I think absolute zero would still remain theoretical. But if humans manage to reach it I don't think they'd ruin the gas giants by turning them solid. I think the astronerds of the future would combat that idea aggressively
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If the traveler could condense all of the gas into a solid using space magic of some kind then I believe that it could work
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DEPOSITION LOOK IT UP But it's highly unlikely that a gas can be turned to a solid
