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Edited by Achronos: 9/5/2014 12:31:22 AM
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343i's control over Halo

Does anyone else feel like 343 is trying to make Halo cater to the gaming community? To where as Bungie did what they wanted ie. The blooming reticle that everyone bitc*** about in reach? I mean, Halo isn't CoD, but I see so many of those aspects being thrown into the halo games, starting with Halo 4.. It used to be a "war" between Halo and CoD players, but after watching some Halo 2 game play from PAX via Twitch, and seeing things like the ice capsules on lockdown... I just am not sure about the MCC at all.. I've said many times since the announcement of the MCC I would rather have Bungie's beautiful new-ness then their "[i]sloppy seconds[/i]" Agree? Disagree?
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  • Halo is dead. Died when it left Bungie's hands. It is sad to see my favorite gaming franchise die a slow death. Luckily, Destiny is a new beginning.

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    • I absolutely loved Halo 4. So I'm not too sure why all the hate towards it. Yeah they did some things that were new to the Halo series, but thats what happens when you have a fresh team working on a franchise. Sure, some things worked, other things didn't. The same could be said for Bungies Halo titles as well. 343i has an incredible amount of respect for Halo and I fully trust them with the series.

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    • >343i strike in a new direction with H4, fans complain >343i listen to fans' complaints and return to the core vision of Halo... fans complain Swear you phaggots would reject the most perfect Halo experience ever crafted because it doesn't have a Bungie logo on the box. Gtfo over it and realise Halo is currently in the best place it's been since 2004.

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    • Still there first game that THEY THEMSELFS MADE. And bungie would have killed halo. They do a terrible job at expanding the franchise/universe. 343 at leasts tries to do differant things.

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    • [quote]Does anyone else feel like 343 is trying to make Halo cater to the gaming community?[/quote] 10/10.

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    • Nothing 343 makes could ever be worse than lolreach.

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      • OP seems to e getting a lot of hate. Criticisms and opinions don't automatically make you a bungie fanboy.

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      • Disagree, 343i are tying up the holes in lore and ACTUALLY listened to the fans. I cannot wait for Halo 5 but MCC looks great and I like what 343i are doing with Halo channel etc.

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      • A game...catering to the gamer community? What is this madness?!

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      • You do realize that 343 opened up the story in a way that bungle never did, right?

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        I'm guessing you're part of the community that claimed the, "franchise was ruined," after they'd played 343's [b]only[/b] Halo game they've released, excluding Spartan Assault.

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      • Phew, well after this I hope to god the MCC is decent.....

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        • So basically Bungie's ''new-ness'' is just cum they got from Borderlands when giving them fellatio? ö.ô

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          • [quote]Does anyone else feel like 343 is trying to make Halo cater to the gaming community?[/quote] Who else would they want to cater it to..?

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            • Edited by Pfhortnite: 9/5/2014 1:38:47 AM
              How is catering to their community a bad thing? If anything that's helping Halo improve. Some of these comments are making me so frustrated.

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              • Then don't buy it.

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                • I sincerely thank all you PS4 console buyers, without you we would not have stumped down on Microsoft monopolizing the console gaming industry. And with that we would not have much innovation in the industry But it's time to stop living in denial, we all know what you want.

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                  • Well guys, I really have enjoyed everyone's input (and the arguments) Helped get me a little closer to the launch! 4 MORE DAYS!!! See most of you star-side.

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                  • Dynamic map elements in H2A are just 343 adding something a little different to the map aside from the graphics. You do realise that the original map is still gonna be in the classic playlist right?

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                  • Edited by ROBERTO jh: 9/5/2014 1:07:43 AM
                    [quote] but after watching some Halo 2 game play from PAX via Twitch, and seeing things like the ice capsules on lockdown... I just am not sure about the MCC at all.. [/quote] Seriously? Dynamic map elements are turning you off from Halo? What do you want out of a Halo game exactly? Halo MCC has no AA, no loadouts, fair starts, map control and is remarkably competitive, and yet this minor change to lockout is turning you away? It sounds to me like you would just want a reskin of Halo 3 and that is never going to happen (lol actually it did, in the MCC) Or based on your OP, a game made by Bungie. And besides, play classic Halo 2 on the MCC if you want. The dynamic map elements are entirely optional, and if you still don't like that, then they are also giving you classic Halo 2 in 1080p 60FPS--as well as the 3 other games. Go nuts.

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                    • Disagree. 343 did a fine job with their first game as a team...being halo4. Yeah, the mp wasn't great, but for first timers they did a good job. 343 has also stated that they learned a lot from halo 4. What to do and what not to do. Bungie didn't just do what they wanted, they are a talented group of gamers that know how to develop games and make good games. They know what ppl like and what ppl want. 343 has done an awesome job at halo 2 remaster so far..it looks great and feedback is positive across the board. I wouldn't call it flat out catering..343 has listened to feedback and is focusing on the roots and what makes halo mp so great. That's why halo 5 beta will be classic halo and it's being launched a year before it's release. It's a true beta...they are giving us plenty of time to give feedback and themselves time to build it. 343 knows we don't want COD in Halo. They could have went that route with the remaster, but they didn't. If anything they will really know how to make good halo mp including mechanics and map making because they remastered one of the greatest mp games of all time..halo 2. Stick with destiny if u want. It will be fun. But IMO..ain't got jack on halo.

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                    • 343 are doing a great job.

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                      • Edited by NAStheMagiking: 9/5/2014 1:51:33 AM
                        Interactive elements of MP maps were in the original Halo 2 MP, so I'm not sure why it's such a big problem for you now; and If anything the PAX and Gamescom tournament has shown that Halo is in the process of a dramatic resurgence. Bungie was less enthused by the end of Halo 2, and wanted out. I think a lot of the concepts introduced into the series after the sequel was a sort of test for Destiny. Concepts that didn't sit with the fans, because they were the antithesis to Halo's design. The plummet started with Reach, and unfortunately, with Halo 4, 343 ran with Bungie's direction, whilst adding another layer on top. Now 343 has learned, and gained a better perspective. Bungie was using Halo to prepare for Destiny, and that left the series in a bit of a state. What we're seeing now is Halo going back to what made it the success it was. 343 aren't abandoning new ideas - Spartan Abilities - but they're far more aware. They seem to have really grown since their first game, and have been nothing but open and embraced the community. Destiny, for me, is just plain disappointing. Playing the beta cemented my concerns, with gameplay, design, and a story that left a lot to be desired. I'm far more excited for Halo, going forward, than I am for Bungie's 'new-ness'. TMCC may be a group of remasters and remakes, but its remasters and remakes done right. It's a package that went above and beyond what people expected. There's some very enticing new content in there, too. It's gonna be damn incredible.

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                      • Why is it every 5 minutes I hear some PS4 fan boy writing something about Halo (mostly disrespectful). If you guys want Halo so bad buy One. When most of us XB1 players get togther we talk about Destiny/Evolve/Titanfall/Halo, but we don't go on and on and on and on and on and on and on about some other consoles game. Seriously wth. Don't you guys have any games of your own to talk about? THEN TALK. And again let me point out that you are bad mouthing a pass product of Bungie, in their forum (but i already know you cannot comprehend what i mean by that).

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                        • I love how you say their "games" like they've made more than one.. Halo MCC is their true second game as a company. All the pros and everyone else that got to play it at pax said it was the most crisp halo experience they've had. Halo 5 is their second game to make by themselves (not a remake). And they're catering to HALO fans, not cod fans. 343i is a great developer and everyone judges them based on what they did with halo 4, their only game lol. It's getting old. Judge them AFTER they've made halo 5. If it sucks, then you can freely criticize them as a bad dev.

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