Lol Solar Warlock is the best subclass in the game... Well Skating, Sword Skating, Well, Icarus Dash, Heat Rising, Dawn Blade, healing rifts etc..... Edit: If you're a bad controller player Warlock sucks. If you're good at the game Warlock is the best class. https://raid.report/leaderboard/speed/all 99% of top 100 are Warlock mains

As a warlock main since destiny 1 I do feel like the class has definitely lost a lot of it's identity post light 3.0 changes. My feedback is definitely biased due to this fact but the that does not mean there isn't evidence to support this. I won't list the specifics since they have been mentioned on this post (and the video above) but bungies design philosophy has basically made warlocks a jack of all trades but master of none class. Not sure what Bungie will do going forward, bit it would be nice if they actually addressed this problem since people are continuing to voice this potential issue. At the very least, I would be happy just to have all the grenade aspects universal. I want to have my improved storm grenade on my warlock (still salty about that haha).

Disagree. His notion of “identity” is way too narrow, and misses the mark. What makes the identity of a warlock in Destiny is that we draw our power mainly from the Light directly. Where as other classes use it to embue/empower objects. Hunters use it to empower weapons and objects. Titans use it to empower their armor…and other objects. So my “identity” as a warlock is that my abilities are the much more power that that of other classes. Not that I have “abilities” that other classes don’t have. The whole point of Subclass 3.0 was to EXPAND our options with regard to how we play our Guardians. Letting us customize how we play. Not create new pigeonholes to get shoved into. I’ve been quite happy with the changes as a warlock main. Each subclass has a unique feel, and they all can be played in different ways depending on the situation. Which is how well-made RPGs work.

I respect ehroar for the content he puts out but I dont agree with this. Yes hunters and titans have gotten similar abilities. But the things that are unique to warlocks still make them more than worth using, and still the best pve class by far imo. Contraverse hold with chaos accelerant, Phoenix protocol with emp rift, fusions, and the grenade aspect (each grenade does the damage of like 2 linear crits and you have them unlimited as long as you do damage in a well or rift... unreal for dps), and verity's brow with... anything really... are all spectacular for the endmost game content. This doesnt include stuff that is still good but not quite as competent, like arc builds with Sunstar, rain of fire for constant radiance, prometheum spur and so on.

better off not posting any content creators on the Bungie forums because youR totally valid point will be drowned in down-votes and “streamer suck LOL” mentality lmfao

I wholeheartedly disagree with whoever that is.

Warlocks feel good as of right now I don’t really understand what’s with all the whining

Sooo what’s the identity of hunters and titans, I saw his video. For example he goes all over void warlock and devour but he neglects child of the old god and its weaken effect which is supposed to be a hunter thing.

Bungie: Well or nothing.

It’s funny how people spend most of the time saying what a crappy influence content creators have over destiny then every so often someone comes along and says “I can’t form a coherent thought but this other person said a sentence that made perfect sense so please watch the same thing I did and go along with the message because I’m incapable of thinking something original on my own but if we both decide to think the same thing this other person said we should think than we at least can both agree.” That’s u

Whenever someone makes a post promoting a YouTuber or streamer it is an instant down vote. Try having your own ideas.

Y'all follow content creators blindly...

Or you can use your own brain

I just wish they’d change heat rises in some way. Like its pretty stupid that the whole gameplay loop was designed to be “oooo look at me im floaty”. The ONLY saving grace of hear rises is the chunk of melee energy that’s refunded on kill. Maybe give some degree damage resist or healing while in the air if heat rises is active. At this point it pales in comparison to devour

Warlocks are objectively inferior. The video proves it. If starfire gets nerfed tomorrow solar would be nothing. The classes are so far imbalanced that I’ve put down the character this season entirely. I only play it when asked believe it or not for a well in a raid or before. I’ve never gotten through a single raid without being asked to switch. This is every warlocks experience nothing is as useful to a team nothing does consequential enough damage to a bosses we have ZERO options. Arc was a net negative solar is too fragmented and the aspects not being merged kill the class and it’s entirely pvp’s fault. Void is ok but -20 disc plus limited fragments and nerfed dps from grenades make it a none choice. Solar dominates because of one exotic and one super and that’s no call to nerf it (because I’d never want to go back to a phoenix protocol meta🤮). This is a terrible situation overall. Using the other classes that have improved synergies within the subclasses themselves feels great and yes titans do have limited exotic options but subclass wise their in a great spot. Same with hunters they have great synergy and in my estimation the most viable exotic options of any class. Warlocks languish in inferiority. I read a bunch of people being frustrated at the state of warlocks and being trolled not a fun experience I’d honestly say just try the other classes. I was miserable “maining” lock now it’s just whatever. Thundercrashing oryx was so much more fun then throwing yet another grenade at another boss standing in a well. How long have we just stood in a well? Maybe if the population dwindles they’ll get the picture prolly not. I just don’t think they a. Care at all about the class it’s not a priority and b. are even inspired when it comes to the class. Clearly whoever designed the 3.0’s enjoys playing the other classes more because what warlocks were left with is as if someone played with them for least amount of time and just thought they were good as is without knowing the scope of long term use and the issues that come up.

Warlocks only complain . Every class got stuff from other classes. Warlocks gave the LEAST to other classes while hunters gave the most. He said warlocks gave ignition to others...but thats a lie...hunters had ignitions first in solar 1.0 Every class can go invis or see through walls with truesight thanks to wishender and ratking and the invis fragment which was the void hunter identity. Arc hunter had chain lightning same as arc warlock from season 1 with lethal current. Solar hunter never had any identity so i cant say anything about that. Warlocks just playing the victim role because arc warlock has the best room clearing abilities of any class.