I saw a dude requiring 30+ VoG clears, and he had zero clears lol.

I's a combination of problems. 1. Endgame stuff like GMs and Master VoG is only obtainable by farming low level content like bounties. I've always believed there should be progression that determines when you go into something, but instead Bungo makes us farm bounties and seasonal challenges, which anyone can do. Since most of them can be cheesed, people don't learn anything and end up being bad at true endgame content. Like farming champion stuns by going into a legend lost sector solo, finding the first champion, and just stunning it 50 times, never completing the lost sector. Or using thrallway to cheese ability or weapon kills. 2. Too large of a percentage of the community relies too heavily on carries. I see it everyday in LFGs. People asking for carries because the only activities that grant the best loot require time and patience, but fusion meta is only gonna be for this season. This FOMO approach leads to players taking massive shortcuts and they end up being bad at endgame content when they get there. 3. Is a community problem. If you did 1 and 2, and then join a run with an experienced group, they treat you like human garbage. That chases people away before they finish a activities and then they drop back into the pool with a bad attitude and having learned nothing. 4. Is also a community problem. People hug their crutch weapons so hard that when Bungo throws a curve ball, like bow overload (which is nice btw), people can't handle it because they only use the same half a dozen weapons for everything. Overload bow is amazing, it stuns in a single hit (vs SMG overload which is actual trash), but nobody uses bows so most people suck with them. 5. Is a Bungo and community problem. Last Wish has been out for years at this point. People been playing that whole time never bothered to learn Last Wish or get 1k voices because it is a super mediocre weapon without particle deconstruction. These hard to get raid exotics should be at least somewhat useful all the time to encourage people to play those activities over a longer period of time and people should be anticipating that a specific weapon may get amazing at the start of a season. 6. GMs and Master VoG are cheap. Cheap as hell. Being one shot all the time, being 2-3 shot by red bars, snipers being one hit kills, grenades being insane and thrown constantly. GMs for strikes with little natural cover in main boss rooms (corrupted and the one on nessus everyone hates) can turn even an experienced team into angry failures with one or two ill timed mistakes. 7. PvP and PvE meta is too different. Too many times do I have to tell a PvP player that their PvP gear sucks in PvE and they need to change to something else. They don't grind for PvE stuff so they're badly equipped and prepared despite putting 1000 hours into the game. And a few other things I'm sure. [b][i]tldr[/i][/b] But the point is, playing the rest of the game doesn't prepare you for GMs or master VoGs and yet the parts of the game that prepare you the least for them are the ones you have to do 1000 times to get high enough light to even do them. Why can't I grind master nightfalls to prepare for a GM? If I grind VoGs to do a master VoG I MIGHT be ready by January. Then it's almost too late to get Fatebreaker or anything useful. It's bonkers.

If you asked if they knew what to do and they said yes but turned out they don't know anything, then you are right. But if you didn't ask, that's on you. They made the post, you asked to join. Not the other way around.

Here is the thing: In the forum, we keep telling these people (who are low light or don’t know what to do) to “Just make your own fire team . . . and that’s what you get. 🌭

Killing wabbits today's dinner?

I avoid posts with kwtd. They have either been noobs or elitist with bad attitude that will kick if you don’t meet their expectations.

Yes. Must have Conqueror title only post is best. This way I know they’ve successfully tackled GM content successfully. This season I haven’t had the urge to play GM’s.

Honestly it's why I avoid lfg all together and just wait it out so I can ask my clan for help. No I'm not saying join a clan, I'm saying I perfer waiting it out over dealing with some dumb requirements.

It is even a bit more frustrating when people leave after first wipe. It happens (wipe) even to best streamers. Takes so much time.

i KWTD :)

Wait a minute. How else can they get you to carry them?

It’s real simple….when you link up in orbit look at their loadout, if it’s not right I just quickly leave

dog its a strike

“Trials 1.5+ KD” [spoiler]has 0.7 KD[/spoiler]