[quote]But then again what the heck am I saying, I must be an idiot.. Tje destiny world is over 7 years old and they're still no dedicated servers and anti-cheat how could they possibly stop people from breaking terms of service on their app.... my bad...[/quote] This entire part applies to Bungie and the game, not the Ninjas (Moderators). [quote]This is open for anybody to comment but I'm hoping one of the moderator see this. I find it extremely stupid that a moderator will come along and threatened to ban people from the forums if not outright suspend them from the forums for a week without prior warning but yet they can't seem to stop the endless wave of solicitation in the lfg section....[/quote] I see why you find that stupid, and that's okay. However, your very first warning is in the [url=https://www.bungie.net/7/en/Legal/CodeOfConduct]Code of Conduct[/url] itself. It's linked in many places, like directly above the forums, near the post button when you write a reply, and so on. All Users are urged to read the [url=https://www.bungie.net/7/en/Legal/CodeOfConduct]Code of Conduct[/url]. If you ignore the rules, that's on you, not us. Neither do we [i]threaten[/i] anyone. If anything Bungie does, since those are their rules, their Terms, their forum. We Ninjas simply enforce the rules. A Warning is not a threat. It's a Warning. A reminder to stay within the rules, as if we would say "Hey that's not okay. Please stop.". If we ban someone directly for a week or month, there's a very good reason for that. We have [url=https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049202731]guidelines[/url] on how we issue Warnings and Bans. Our first guideline is the [url=https://www.bungie.net/7/en/Legal/CodeOfConduct]Code of Conduct[/url] itself. One other I am able to tell you about, because it should be obvious anyway, is that we issue actions based on your record and the severity and context of the violation (those aren't the only factors, of course). Someone is new, never had an action and used a soft insult? A Warning is appropriate. Someone has 14 actions for Personal Attacks and similar on their record, some of them recent, they just came off a 30-day ban and immediately insult someone again? You likely get another month of timeout. Someone is new and doesn't have a record, but out of nowhere actually threatens other Users with the nastiest things you can imagine? At least a 30-day or, after speaking with Bungie, an immediate Permanent Ban. You see, there are many factors that go into our decisions. Some of them may not make sense to a User that just received a Moderator action, and I understand that. We try our best to be consistent, and we evolve with the forums. Some things that may have been okay in the past, we now act against. Some things can slip through our net, because we can't be everywhere. It's also why we are dependant on User reports. You can always ask us what's up. We will be happy to explain to you in private what caused a Moderator action, why it's that length and so on. Of course, you should check with the [url=https://www.bungie.net/7/en/Legal/CodeOfConduct]Code of Conduct[/url] first, most of our actions should be explained by them and the [url=https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049202731]extended explanation of the Code of Conduct[/url]. All we ask of the people is that you be excellent to each other. That brings us to the last part of your post about the Fireteam section. How do you stop an endless wave? You can't. You can fight it, but there's only so much you can do. That's pretty much our situation on that. We regularly go through Fireteams, regularly ban Paid Services but they just come back another way and do the same. We are limited by what we can do with our tools. We also aren't expected to hang out in Fireteams 24/7, since we all are volunteers and we are also busy with the Forums, Clans, the Report Queue, and answering your questions. We try our best, and we constantly give feedback on this to Bungie, but we are painfully aware it's not enough. As long as people use these services, it's likely they will exist in some form. All we can do is forcing them to do their business elsewhere. Everything else is up to Bungie. Also, our limited capabilities in Fireteams doesn't really have much to do with how we act on the forums. Saying this because you somehow made a connection between these two.