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Edited by LAR:
5/19/2021 10:21:24 PM
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PVP community needs to be addressed
I’m getting tired of seeing people constantly complain about the state of pvp. I can understand that it’s in a terrible state rn, but at the end of the day Destiny as a game is presented as a story driven looter shooter.
If you guys want change, sadly I don’t think complaining on the forms will bring it. The earliest we can expect an update is most likely Witch queen.
You complain on the forms but go and run 10+ more games of pvp like that will make them change anything. Stop playing the game if you don’t like it. Stop flooding the forms with negativity. Nobody is forcing you to play Destiny 2. You chose to play, and more importantly you chose to play pvp.
I’m just gonna finish this out with a few points I agree need to be changed.
- stop requiring players to play pvp to unlock catalysts.
- Incorporate a system that matches players off of KDA. (Not like skill based mm)
- make more game modes like team scorched
I.e. a vehicle only game mode, or some sort of gimmick game mode.
- make a separate game mode for stasis. (This is the only way to make everyone happy, light only crucible, and darkness only crucible.
Thank you for taking the time to read this, I know my opinion doesn’t mean much but I figured I might as well share my thoughts.
Edit: I was reading some replies and I’ve changed my stance on removing catalyst progress for pvp. I don’t think they should remove it entirely just not make it mandatory to catalyst progress. Just like how pve shouldn’t be mandatory. There needs to be a way for players to complete it the way they are most comfortable with.
Edit 2: I’m not saying hold your thoughts. I’m saying if you want change, act. Yeah it stinks that it comes to this but they aren’t going to fix something that still has an active player base. You dislike the state of pvp, stop playing pvp.
Edit 3: I will not be responding to anymore comments on this thread. I feel like I’ve given my opinion on everything relevant. Have a great day everyone, take it easy.
[spoiler]have an amazing day[/spoiler]
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The way the PvP community is now is the result of [u]deliberate[/u] neglect by Bungie for PvP. They promised to fix it, but they haven’t. If you expect them to just sit by and let Bungie not keep their word. It has reached its boiling point, it’s either they remove or but the bullet and fix it, letting PvP continue the way it is will cause damage to the game reputation, population, including the company itself.
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All I need from PvP are stable connections. Frustrating trying to do things against 1-2 players each game that don’t take damage and bounce back and forth across the screen. Just wonder why Bungie still hasn’t put in ping limitations that just prevents you from matching them and/or kicks people out of the game when “all of a sudden” their connection becomes bad “at the most opportune times”. If it ever goes above a set amount from match settings when in a match they get removed and issued a warning. So many other P2P games have that set in so matches are better, even f2p games. Just seems odd we never hear about steps Bungie is taking to improve connections on matchmaking and within matches once their started.
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If people never complained, many of the game's problems wouldn't be fixed.
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1 ReplyIf they didn't do anything with PvP in the last expansion, you've got some mighty high hopes if you think they're going to do anything the coming expansion.
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5 Replies[quote]You dislike the state of pvp, stop playing pvp.[/quote] I don't like taking my ADHD medicine. Doesn't change the fact I need it to focus and would want it to have fewer side effects. People can't just avoid pvp if a catalyst or quest requires you to participate in it. So that wouldn't fix anything. The fact that more and more people are sharing their opinions is what makes this community thrive. Do you know how boring it would be to sit yourself around a bunch of yes men?
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I formally apologize to all the folks I was in control with yesterday trying to get kills with the miserable excuse of a sidearm to get the catalyst... sorry..[spoiler] Not sorry 🤪[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyI don’t complain on the forums but I definitely complain. Kind of needed to read this, needed to hear it. I need to stop caring and just play the game because I love it
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2 RepliesIf we didn't complian we'd still be in 4v4 with 1.2 second time to kills. People have a right to use the fourms and post what they think about the game. I wish they would put more effort in some of the criticisms but they have the right. They paid for the game they get a voice. Here are my thoughts for example. -I think stasis is annoying. As triplewreck stated getting hit by stasis is like getting your driving disabled in a racing game. I think the slide of behemoth titan is way to strong and goes to far and is to fast. Some of the aspects are way to strong, such as the new hunter one. -I like the smoothness of the game but also feel that characters are way to mobile. I would tone it down to around d1 levels or just slighty lower then what it is currently. (Stompees, Icurus Dash, ect..) -Also address ammo scavenger perks. You shouldn't be able to use your special weapon all match. -With the current mobility of the game. Maps like exodus blue and twilight gap just don't work well. They were mediocre in d1 and even worse in d2 sandbox. I would've preferred maps like asylum and frontier to come back. A good mix or long and short engagements. They could be made slighty bigger to compensate for the speed of d2. -make all handcannons use the same range formula. 120s shouldn't get more range just because it's a 120. They have proven they can still be good in normal handcannon range.
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5 RepliesI am tired of seeing people complain about people complaining. 😒
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12 Replies[quote]I’m getting tired of seeing people constantly complain about the state of pvp. I can understand that it’s in a terrible state rn, but at the end of the day Destiny as a game is presented as a story driven looter shooter. If you guys want change, sadly I don’t think complaining on the forms will bring it. The earliest we can expect an update is most likely Witch queen. You complain on the forms but go and run 10+ more games of pvp like that will make them change anything. Stop playing the game if you don’t like it. Stop flooding the forms with negativity. Nobody is forcing you to play Destiny 2. You chose to play, and more importantly you chose to play pvp. I’m just gonna finish this out with a few points I agree need to be changed. - stop requiring players to play pvp to unlock catalysts. - Incorporate a system that matches players off of KDA. (Not like skill based mm) - make more game modes like team scorched I.e. a vehicle only game mode, or some sort of gimmick game mode. - make a separate game mode for stasis. (This is the only way to make everyone happy, light only crucible, and darkness only crucible. Thank you for taking the time to read this, I know my opinion doesn’t mean much but I figured I might as well share my thoughts. Edit: I was reading some replies and I’ve changed my stance on removing catalyst progress for pvp. I don’t think they should remove it entirely just not make it mandatory to catalyst progress. Just like how pve shouldn’t be mandatory. There needs to be a way for players to complete it the way they are most comfortable with. [spoiler]have an amazing day[/spoiler][/quote] The forums are the official place for players to talk about the game. It’s literally what they are here for.
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15 RepliesIf Stasis is gone I want Shotguns gone, Stasis screws apes and I promise you people are angry that they can't ape anymore
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Yea more gimmick modes like team scorched and mayhem are just what pvp needs. /s
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1 ReplySorry for being bored with pve I guess...
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1 ReplyPVP and PVE communities are both toxic in their own way.
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1 ReplyIf you dont like post complaining about PvP dont read them... Overall its feedback about a section of the game they care about.
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1 ReplyBungie: we have a PvP mode?!
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1 ReplyAt level 22 it’s around 15 kills on any catalyst quest. You have [i]ALL[/i] season to do it. It’s not that bad.
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The only way it will change is for those of us that hate it to never play it, leave to the people that wanted it changing, so they play each other, which is what they all -blam!- about before SBMM was removed. It's a simple response but as usual gamers are a bit dumb.
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4 RepliesEdited by SteveOfSteves: 5/16/2021 7:48:49 PMOnce you hit Season Rank 22, you only need 13 kills. If people can’t get 13 kills with a sidearm in PvP, they might as well delete the game.
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1 Reply[quote] - stop requiring players to play pvp to unlock catalysts. [/quote] An easy solution? Combine Guardian and enemy kills. Instead of "Kill 50 Guardians" how about "Kill 50 Guardians, Nightfall Champions, or Nightmares at the Altars of Sorrow". That way you're not "forced" to do PvP and PvE players still get a challenge, and the moon gets another boost because the Altars can be a real blast with a good group. [quote] - Incorporate a system that matches players off of KDA. (Not like skill based mm)[/quote] Just a note here, but that presents it's own issues as well. It would be poor for some game modes like control that are not focused on killing ability but rather coordination and sheer stubbornness.
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Only like 10% of catalysts need PvP. I think that's a reasonable amount. Destiny has PvP in it, you can't expect to get all the loot if you don't play the whole game. There isn't any negative progression, so if you keep working at it, you'll eventually get it done....
