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7/1/2020 1:28:18 AM
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IB without SBMM: Mercy after mercy
Please Bungie, check the stats on the amount of mercies that are happening right now in IB. Just a hunch, but I think it might be an indication of how the removal of SBMM is impacting the average PVP player. I just finished playing 15 matches. 6 or 7 of them were ended by the mercy rule.
Bungie, I have a question:
Where do the average skill PVP players fit in this new landscape without SBMM? Where do we go to PVP other players at our skill level? Right now, the answer is we don't fit and there is no experience for us in PVP other than being fodder for folks waaaaay above our skill level. Trials, Survival, Elimination - competitive playlists all utterly dominated by high skill players. The only place we could [i]compete[/i] was in the non-competitive playlists with SBMM. And over everyone else, high skill players can attest to the fact that the one thing that matters most in PVP is that the player feels like they can compete.
I think most of us "casuals" understand and accept that Trials isn't for us, and that we can't compete in the upper tier of Survival and Elimination (still have SBMM enabled) - we're average skill players. Of course we don't get to compete with the highly skilled players - they the best, we the rest. So why is it hard for seemingly you, Bungie, and the some of the sweats to understand that casuals deserve to be able to compete in PVP?
Please revert the decision to remove SBMM from non-competitive playlists.
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1 ReplyPlayed about 1-2 hours earlier with 5 other friends. We lost one game I believe, and ran mercy after mercy after mercy. Their MM is a joke.
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The worst part is being killed by short range guns from across the map and people just not dying even though you shot and grenade them.
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The real issue is teams of 6s vs solo and 2 player teams.
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The fun part about these post regarding problems in the game. Is that they just get ignored by bungie at this point. They probably do not know how to fix the game, so i am guessing this is as good as it gets
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Really it's not that bad.. I played like 5 matches I think yesterday..... all of which were close and what made them nice.. no teleporting titan shotgun apes!! I mean there were apes but there connections were decent.
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I get where you're coming from having been on the receiving end of a couple mercies, but I have a different explanation for the cause. Have you gone and looked at the light level of the other players on your team? I've checked and most of the players finishing with a KDA closer to zero than to 1 are people that are waaay underlight and probably shouldn't be in there anyway. Unless you are a great player, going in to IB at such a disadvantage is just dumb. Combine that with the idiots that never cap zones and it's basically a guarantee you're going to lose.
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7 Repliesthe problem in CBMM is when you face 6 players who are connecting to each other from all over the world , does anyone believe they all have good connections , all it takes is one player on that team to be lagging & we have a total lag fest. which makes CBMM a total joke as it seems to be encouraging Lag
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Damn y'all just cry and cry and cry
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3 RepliesMore mercy games = quicker matches Quicker matches = more tokens and drops. Who cares about winning or losing?
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6 RepliesEven under SBMM, you could still expect to see more mercies than in other playlists. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/250392036?sort=0&page=0 [quote]Iron Banner (sbmm enabled) Mercy Rate:[b] 25.5%[/b] QuickPlay (sbmm disabled) Mercy rate: [b]4.4%[/b][/quote]
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I agree I played 4 matches and lost 3 to mercy. Those mercy games were all fireteams, First game: two fireteams om 3 ppl put on the same team. Second game: two fireteams, 4 ppl and 2 ppl both on the same team. Third game: 3 duo fireteams 6randoms in the other team. This can’t be coincidence this must have something to do with the way bungie decides to fill the teams. Im done with IB for an entire season, dismantled the quests and will go to CoD for my multiplayer action.
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3 RepliesActually I've been having more even matches. I don't know why everyone's talking about getting stomped or being the one stomping
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Removing SBMM from casual playlists is the best thing to ever happen to crucible.
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well SBMM has not place in pvp.... In this IB, I constantly get put with teammates that all go negative (most of the time) and im the only positive kd person in the team.. little upsetting.. like bungie thinks im some kind of saviour or something.. nevertheless the other team almost everyone go positive... git gud bro... you cannot always get carried.
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I just got mercies three times in a row because of 5v6 against flawless players
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I'm happy to see a non-laggy Iron Banner. I'm also happy that I don't have to try hard and use my best loadouts in every crucible mode. I think comp playlist should be tweaked so that people are able to play with players at their skill level. other playlist will priorotize connection This would be a win-win for all types of players
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Survival still has SBMM.
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3 Repliesdude you said it yourself... you want to compete? there is comp playlist where you do just that. you gotta try your hardest, and if you loose thats on you to improve. want to just chill and not care about shit, welcome to cbmm. ironbanner is a competitive mode since you get more tokens for winning, making it cbmm instead of sbmm is kinda dumb though.
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I agree, great post!
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In the previous IB i think i saw something like 3 or 4 mercy rules kick in over the whole week. This IB, after only 2 days, i've already seen 9. Most games are extremely unbalanced, and are somehow laggier than ever, most of the time i'm lucky to have 1 or 2 players from my own country in the lobby. Not very enjoyable imo.
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Yes it is. I have a 48% win rate in my last 25 games. Its mercy back and forth. Hardly any good games. We beat a team and kept them to 7 points. Then we lost and only score 22 or so. Not sure how to feel about this. At least the games are quick and im not seeing much lag.
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4 RepliesJust got loaded into a match where the score was 2-80. What a waste of time, why bother loading me in?🤔🤔
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4 RepliesEdited by CookieNiki: 7/1/2020 7:43:44 PMEvery PvP activity should have a 100% solo queue matchmaking option/mode.
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I'm all for CBMM in casual playlists but IB should be SBMM. No question.
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As a solo player, the state of iron banner is absolute garbage. I keep getting matched versus stacked fireteams while my team is fully solo que. Absolute trash
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6 RepliesYep mercy matches galore! 50% I'm spawned into to losing matches with a few minutes to go....yeah go match making😂. There is still lag.
