The problem is that everything else has been nerfed making fusison shine more. The biggest issue now is that high impact fusions live in HC range and can OHK unlike HC's.

Bring back Plan C and make it the fastest of fastest strongest of strongest cheapest of cheapest and most malevolent fusion rifle in the game and yanno just make back up plan slightly less powerful! Boom kinda solved... unless someone thinks otherwise, which is A okay to have a different opinion!

The dads would explode... they just about recovered from the recluse nerf but erentil as well!! Honestly I just think back up plan needs to go

[quote]Why is an exotic perk now on legendaries? Why is it so easy to just use fusions the whole time with no primary gameplay? Why are they so consistent at short, medium and long range? Yea you can say "just dodge" or "play cover" but that only works for a short time. They can consistently at range spam a OHKO weapon down a lane without precision. Why is that a thing? At the safety of range, get a one hit kill without precision? They are too easily spam-able and rewarded for doing so. In this new vid from Brose his opponent gets 20+ elims in high comp without using a primary. Thats a problem. This is agains good players who know what they're doing and still he can just spam fusion till he picks up the kill. Honestly Brose is right, it makes crucible not fun. The only time Im having fun is when Im not playing fusions. Im fine with any other cheeky build or armor piece or weapon or class, but when fusions enter the game its just BS to get mapped without standing a chance. Because with back-up plan once you hear the charge its already too late. Edit: the only reason posts calling for a high impact fusion nerf cant get upvotes is because theres too many erentil crutch users down-voting it to oblivion.[/quote] In that situation he did not really have any fesible play regardless trying to cap the flag. Cant sit in super against a shutdown super, short range and shotty vs midrange and fusion, and hes in a spot that has 5 avenues of attack. And that was maybe a 20 meter shot. If that.

How can you use a shotgun in comp, currently still have recluse and izinagi equipped, and call fusions a crutch. In that clip you were getting slapped either way bruh, you were easily in fusion rifle range backing away from this dude while you still had shotgun ammo, I don’t see why you need to blame fusion rifles for terrible plays

When idiots stand still they get killed. That could have been a shotgun , sniper , grenade launcher, etc.

[quote]Why is an exotic perk now on legendaries? Why is it so easy to just use fusions the whole time with no primary gameplay? Why are they so consistent at short, medium and long range? Yea you can say "just dodge" or "play cover" but that only works for a short time. They can consistently at range spam a OHKO weapon down a lane without precision. Why is that a thing? At the safety of range, get a one hit kill without precision? They are too easily spam-able and rewarded for doing so. In this new vid from Brose his opponent gets 20+ elims in high comp without using a primary. Thats a problem. This is agains good players who know what they're doing and still he can just spam fusion till he picks up the kill. Honestly Brose is right, it makes crucible not fun. The only time Im having fun is when Im not playing fusions. Im fine with any other cheeky build or armor piece or weapon or class, but when fusions enter the game its just BS to get mapped without standing a chance. Because with back-up plan once you hear the charge its already too late. Edit: the only reason posts calling for a high impact fusion nerf cant get upvotes is because theres too many erentil crutch users down-voting it to oblivion.[/quote] How can such an underused weapon be a “crutch” (dumb meme) used by enough players that they down vote these threads? This is another meme thread repeating content creators with 0 upvotes because high impact fusions are strong but not even close to being over powered. If you watch the game play he never gets mapped. He does short range to his own bad play. He wasn’t even slaying out against the other teammates and shut down by some “unfair” fusion kills. The only real complaint he actually has seems to be special ammo economy which applies to all special weapons and nerfing a class of weapon that isn’t over powered doesn’t help. Like all players who are trying to force shotgun/HC he should take note of the existence of a fusion in his lobby and play accordingly. Instead he is pushing out of cover and dying when he dodges into a wall and gets stuck there....or a point blank mountaintop shot in the middle of the lane. This video is outrage click farming. This post is just begging for nerfs of a weapon that doesn’t need them because players don’t want to have to improve at the game to force their play style. Oh and back up plans? Its not a great perk if you can time your charges because it costs you a range perk which is the only way to keep fusions consistent enough to be worth running. Even if it only existed on one exotic fusions users who rely on it could just run that exotic. It’s not like there aren’t a ton of viable legendary weapons in the other slots. There are a ton of viable weapons in every slot which is why high impact fusions are not ever the most used energy or special weapon. DRB/LH have been for an actual year.

The erentil advocacy group indeed showed up like they do in every other fusion post. Seem they don't understand that a special weapon shouldn't perform the function of their primary. But surely a non-sniper hitscan special weapon with a base range of 40 meters is justified by... "Shotgun counter." Primary counter. My only chance in outgunning a precharging -blam!- is a three tap with the last word. Even by then I'm shaking in fear of getting out of cover, high chance of missing. Strafing won't save you, sliding won't; impending doom.

I want projectile back , I missed being one of the only fusion players in d1 . Now it's pretty ubiquitous :(

Just reduce special ammo... Why is it need nerf nerf nerf. Never solving the actual problem.