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10/4/2019 2:41:13 PM
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Which form of media do you think can best present stories?
In your opinion which of these do you think is best method of conveying a powerful story to the viewer, and why?
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Edited by EnthusiasticRobot: 10/7/2019 7:39:36 PMA picture is worth 1000 words, and movies are generally shot in 24 frames per second. There are 60 seconds in a minute, and movies have an average running time of 101 minutes. This gives them an average of 145,440,000 words. Of course, not all of those frames are providing something new or unique, so lets just say only every six frames are worth 1000 words. That still gives movies an average of 24,240,000 words from visuals alone. Accounting for audible words, there is an additional 12,000 words of spoken dialogue on average. Bringing our average to 24,252,000 words. To put that in perspective, the total word count of the Lord of the Rings trilogy and The Hobbit is 576,459 words. That makes the average movie roughly 42 times wordier than the entire LOTR trilogy and The Hobbit combined. [spoiler]In all seriousness, you’re comparing apples and oranges here. Sure, they’re both fruits, but they are very different.[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyIt really depends. Long term world building and character development? TV shows You want to tell an interactive story that the consumer can experience? Video games. Once off, self-contained story? TV show. Low budget, and you want to provide more insight as to the thoughts and aspects of the characters? Books
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Edited by cRaZyT101: 10/4/2019 3:12:31 PMAll forms are good ways to tell a story, if done right. It all depends on what one is going for. Do you want a story about a group of friends who go on an adventure to discover themselves? TV shows are a good way to flesh out a character long term. Books as well so you can see into the characters' thoughts more fluidly. A story about a particular crisis, such as an end of the world scenario? Movies and video games can tell those quite well. A story with a world that has deep lore? TV shows and video games can do that. Books too, but those and movies I feel would fall short compared to the first two. These are my opinions, since this is all subject to subjectivity.
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Games are high art Books are brain food Movies are eye candy Tv shows are kind of a mix of the three. Sometimes they’re brilliant, most of the time they’re like a drawn out movie, and sometimes they’re just an excuse for people to drool and be braindead every evening before they pass out snoring in their recliner with a half finished beer and Cheeto crumbs on their front, leading to another day of tired and unhealthy lifestyle only to find release in another evening of bloat and bright tube.
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6 RepliesRap is the true answer
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Clearly, books. Visual media such as tv/movies offer a powerful [i]visual[/i] mode, but words can convey a much more powerful overall view and expression.
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Edited by LahDsai: 10/5/2019 3:25:01 PMDifferent mediums. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. No one is better than the other.
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There isn’t one that’s objectively better, but that’s been said already, so there’s not a lot I can add to that subject. My favorite, though, has to be episodic storytelling. That’s, like, TV/comics/short story series/etc. It excels the most at character/world development, which is my personal favorite part of most stories.
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Words are powerful. A book can contain more words usually.
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Video games are great for an interactive story. Books are great for give a rich story.
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Literature, hands down. It's the most intellectually engaging and stimulating medium. Unfortunately, much of modern literature is of poor quality, likely due to the prominence of and general preference for motion picture media.
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"Best is subjective". Games are the most interactive/participatory medium. Movies are the least. Books are the medium most able to expound on a story in depth. Movies are the least. Movies are the medium most able to communicate a single person's vision of a story (the director). Books are the least able to do that. So there isn't "one" best medium. The issue is whether or not the medium is suited to the story you wish to tell....and the way that you want to tell it. If you want to tell a story (like Destiny) where you want the audience to be highly participatory in helping you to create a cooperative narrative? Make a video game. Not a movie. But if you want to tell YOUR version of a story, and want to do it in a way that clearly communicates that vision? Make a movie. Don't make a video game.
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Video games offer immersion and choice that the others don’t have, especially with the ability to explore one’s own environment. Books offer exposition and depth that’s definitely impossible to match in any other medium while being able to describe things that might not be practical to visualize in great depth. TV shows have a flow and continuity that keeps you hooked the whole way through, and offer more content to experience. Movies can move their audience’s emotions more impressively with deep, powerful performances and impactful scenes. All that to say, each medium grants some level of uniqueness that can’t be achieved with the others. While I personally hold books to be the best because of their precise descriptions and deep exposition, others may find a theatrical performance more impactful, and so on. [spoiler]But deep down, we all know that story time Twitter threads are objectively the best form of media in every way. [/spoiler]
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3 RepliesTV honestly, as long as they keep a consistent vision and don't fall to the greed of unlimited seasons
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1 ReplyRead the Iliad, then watch the movie Troy, and the BBC series Troy, and it will be clear written work is superior to both.
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Video games, but only because they have the most freedom. You aren’t really limited in time, style or anything other than budget. Because video games are interactive, the player can be more immersed in the story and/or directly interact with the narrative and shape it how you want. Mass Effect for example. You [i]could[/i] make it into a movie or it could have been a movie from the start, but I doubt people would still talk about it today if not for the narrative choices.
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Depends. Books can’t describe scenery well, or else it will get too long. Movies can not have enough time. Video games cost a bit to make(though can easily get the money back if down right) Tv shows have to be done at the perfect time of day.
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1 ReplyImpossible to answer, because the genuinely great artists in each medium, are those who actually understand that medium. The story you would tell with each medium SHOULD be different, and be reviewed differently. [spoiler]This is why adaptations always fail.[/spoiler] So knowing the strengths and weaknesses properly, this is how you would tell a story in each: Literature: focus on internal character thought processes. This is something that only books can do well, because whether it's 1st person or 3rd person, you're guaranteed to have one or more perspective characters, and be placed inside their heads, and readers invariably grow to LOVE those characters. Cinema: brings you incomparably close to the emotional state of characters and settings. This is done through editing, cinematography and mise en scene. Films seem to be better at building suspense and also better at making people cry - it's all in the visuals. This is why starting a film with a voiceover is always bad, whereas that might work well in a book. "Visual storytelling" is a popular term when discussing film for a reason. Television and Comics: I know comics weren't an option but they go here anyway. A serial medium offers incomparable levels of DEVELOPMENT. Whether it's character development or plot development, TV and Comics are best at it, because you have SO MUCH TIME. This is why people got so mad at Game of Thrones S8. The development the show had become known for, was thrown out the window. People who wany to write (or experience) stories with exhaustive levels of developmemt and an understanding that the story "won't end," invariably go HERE for their fix. Video Games: Unsurprisingly, this is about immersion. No other medium can as effectively immerse the audience in a setting and character. Gaming literally makes you the main character, even outside of games with character creators. And that level of immersion, that focus on immersion, allows the creator to do really interesting things with choices, secrets, branching paths. Games are the only medium where you can MISS something... and where you can have an entirely different experience the second time through. And that immersion can also simply make certain engagements more interesting. Obviously there is some overlap, but you couldn't argue that, for example, books are better at immersion than games. If I HAD to choose one medium as being overall better, I'd give it to cinema, but it wouldn't be objectively sound, for the reasons laid out above.
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Video games
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It often depends on how it can be handled. For example: A game like the Last of Us, or maybe The Witcher provide a unique storyline that a lot of people love due to how they handled the story.
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Books have an immense amount of imagination and immersion. It has no length cap unlike TV and movies, and video games can only immerse you so much because you can dictate how the action goes. A book almost always has a preset story, yet that story can be open to many interpretations of an action and because you have no control over it, you don't always have a clear prediction of what happens next. As much as we may take books for granted in terms of entertainment, they still have a massive influence when it comes to story presentation.
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TV shows hands down. More time into the story, and immersion. Less budget though
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Books/novels honestly hold the most info of a story, but it's more fun in games or tv shows.
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To me they are all equals as they have things they are good at and things they aren't good at, but bottom line a good story is good because it uses the form of media it's in to it's advantage. If I had to choose my favorite story it'd be the Arbiter's from Halo (video game) though.
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Depending on the person I would either go books or tv shows. If you're even a slightly imaginative person then books work much better than any other form of media. Otherwise tv shows/anime
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Edited by FdYAcsoyPKN83gLE: 10/5/2019 5:43:01 AMJoe moma. ;)
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