Pathetic bungie. They are not OP! They just aren't. They are good, but plenty of other weapons are good too. On my main account (pilcr0w) I invested a ton of time playing solo getting Luna's howl. It was rough. But I felt like the complainers at the time. Crying that I can't compete, blah blah blah.. but then I kept trying and trying and I started to feel what works best for my playstyle and was able to earn it solo. A few weeks ago, on my other account I decided to do it again. This time, on a brand new character using a boon to boost me to 350. I'm rocking all blue weapons. I was able to get the glory points before I even reached 500 light. I had 95% all blue weapons during the 45 matches it took me to go from zero points to 2200 points. I faced countless players running luna's and a few running NF. Some of those matches I won, some I didn't. I actually beat a team running NF and thought WTF?!?!? I'm not even a good player, I rush constantly, I hover around a 1.6-1.7 k/d/a and on my other account it stayed around 1.8. You can look up my other account it's ovsatanovsun If you hover around a .90 or less. It's not the weapons that are making you lose people, it's how you are playing the game. So please, Bungie, Don't listen to these people crying nerf. It does not need it, at all. Instead of nerfing the weapon. Make them only useable in Comp and not quickplay. Problem solved for the crybabies. If you are in comp and you lose a lot, it's comp, it sucks, it's hard, it's meant to be and guess what babies, it's the most fun game mode around. So instead of being crybabies about particular weapons, either get better or stick with another game mode. I know, it sucks. . But a lot of people, myself included, invested a ton of time going for these weapons. It was hard as hell for a lot of us, specially the ones that stuck playing it solo. So bungie, Listen to us, the diehard fan, not the diehard crybaby's like 95% of the hunter player base. I'd appreciate it!!