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12/16/2018 7:14:26 PM
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Here's a way to give Crucible more variety and counter metas without having to nerf even a single weapon

[u]Dedicated, additional playlists with rotating modifiers and/or limitations.[/u] Stuff like halved super charge rates, or disabled supers altogether. Stuff like a playlist where teams are not allowed. Stuff like pinnacle weapons or exotics being not allowed. Stuff like certain weapons types being not allowed. Stuff like certain subclasses being not allowed. Stuff like certain maps not being allowed. Stuff like radar disabled. etc [u]It could be compensated[/u] by certain other modifiers, like statistically underused weapons, classes and abilities receiving buffs within that playlist. If there was a side playlist where, on a weekly or twice-weekly basis these rules would rotate then people who are sick of metas or dominating classes and abilities could find some variety without Bungie having to nerf what's strong. This would also mean that weapons and abilities remain untouched for PvE. There could even be triumphs for this. Bounties too. Or even unique rewards for this kind of thing. For people who do well and perform well even small handicaps.

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  • Incentivize the use of other weapons by offering greater rewards/glory/valor for winning with them. If people had the chance to make big gains doing so, they'd be more prepared to branch out towards other guns/exotics.

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  • hmm let’s make more metas by removing other weapons hmm yes very smart

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  • *Says add modifiers to crucible* Me:ok, I like. Me:*reads the examples* Me:... These aren't modifiers these are restrictions

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  • Edited by FatBabyDragon: 12/18/2018 3:54:52 PM
    Let's not nerf stuff let's just GET RID OF THEM. Let's make even more of our progress and rewards obsolete

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  • I think they should add a mode like Star Wars battlefront. Make people be able to fight as darkness members (hive, fallen, scorn, cabal etc.) against another race. Make it multiplayer. Make it like battlefront, huge maps, big amounts of people, hecka fun. Make people fight as low level people and then build up their levels throughout the match (psion to legionary to centurion to colossus). Make a big map and let people wreak havoc. No open world or battle royale crap. Add battlefront modes.

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    • Meh. I’d rather have fair matchmaking and mode choice.

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    • I really hope that trials has the modifier idea. It would be really cool to have a real challenge each weekend. Loadouts are a bit too oppressive for trials tho. A playlist for it would be nice tbh.

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      • They should nerf weapons and abilities, but they need to remember to buff other weapons and abilities aswell. That is what they forgot in D1 where they only nerfed with minimal buffs. The meta is in a clear need of change aswell, every day that goes by the game becomes more and more boring to play. It feels old.

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      • Have rotating playlists with special modifiers, rule sets, and increased rewards. For example, have a Scout Rifle and Hand Cannon week where you gain 3x as many tokens or Valor. You could only use those weapon types in the playlist, but you'd get rewarded for it.

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        • I don't think this will work - you're asking for a low participation playlist. Here's an alternative: Similar to a Strikes Playlist, there is an element buff, a weapon type buff, or ability buff that rotates daily. Arc Hand Cannons More Super Energy on Sniper Kills Brawler Kinetic damaged buffed in air I'm sure there's dozens of applications. Just something to encourage use of other load-outs and sub-classes. Sure, you'll have your broken days - but they will just a day. It would be exciting to see what the daily buff would be.

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        • I would play it if the rewards for doing so were worth it. If it was just some playlist for people who would rather be shot by fusion rifles rather than shotguns then that is a total flop.

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        • Edited by Pure: 12/17/2018 1:01:03 AM
          The best part is, the people who domiante you in pvp will still dominate you in these modes too!

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          • Yea, nah. I mean the modifier idea is great, buffing certain weapons and/or weapon types would be neat, but restricting gameplay like you suggest would suck.

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          • No supers/slow supers was dull. No teams allowed.... you mean rumble... we have that. No exotics.. private matches you can make all the rules you want. Pretty much everything you wrote after that would be private matches.

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            • You would still get farmed whatever they do. Keep dreaming haha

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            • The idea is nice, but then it would reduce crucible population because people would skip modifiers they don't like.

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              • Make a playlist without shotguns and it will literally be all that I play. P.s [spoiler]you're a bleeding pussy if you use shotguns for most of your games[/spoiler]

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                • That sounds so obnoxiously boring. I’d almost put down money that the playlist would be dead as hell if something like that were implemented.

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                  • Most of those playlists would be ghost towns. Nobody wants no radar, just look at trials, rumble is already a thing, and people want to use anything they’d want to use, and Quickplay gives everything that they’d want to use. Some scenarios would be fun but Most of the ones you listed only come up with negative outcomes

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                    • ya , swords only match with unlimited ammo

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                    • So instead of addressing an issue that may or may not exist, the better option is to just push them off to the side so it can be ignored. Isn't this the kind of thinking that gets mocked on the regular?

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                      • Yeah but that all sounds boring as shit

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                        • So go back to year one d2 crucible? Haha... [spoiler]No.[/spoiler]

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                        • SWAT but its destiny

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                        • I dunno about QP, but Comp should have a daily curated loadout.

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                        • Make every sidearm a one shot kill.

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