Good evening everybody! This is Aifos coming to you alive from Dirtmouth! Man, this place is a little gloomy, don’t’cha think?
Ghost: “...”
Why.. That’s an awfully beautiful flower you have there..
. . .
*gasp* Could that flower.. Be for me?
Ghost: “...”
Oh.. *ahem* Of course not, why would you be giving me a flower? How silly of me.
. . .
Anyway, the setting of a kingdom/society after its collapse is a common one. Rapture, Lordran, Karst, Hallownest. Now, there’s plenty of good reason for this, but while discussing [i]why[/i] these settings are so popular isn’t the point of this thread.
See, a game’s not going to give you a fallen kingdom without thinking of why that kingdom fell.. At least no good game will! And those backstories behind these ruined lands are what I want to talk about! Let’s hear some good ones!
[b][u]Tl;dr? Here’s my point![/u][/b]
Favorite downfall of a civilization stiries in games?
My answer
[b]Warning:[/b] Spoilers to Hollow Knight
[spoiler]Okay, now, I don’t know if the story of Hallownest is my favorite, but I’m in a Hollow Knight mood, and it’s definitely up there, so here we go!
Hallownest wasn’t always Hallownest, and used to be under the rule of a goddess of Dreams and/or Light, named Radiance. It’s unknown if they’re literal descendants, or created in a more godlike sense, but a tribe of moths, whom I’ll call the “Dreambenders” lived under her rule. With her knowledge, they created a legendary weapon called the Dream Nail, that had influence over dreams, and—among other things—could let you enter Radiance’s domain, by entering an individual’s mind.
However, possibly after a war with the god of Nightmares/Fire, a second light appeared, known as the Wyrm. This Wyrm, eventually calling himself the Pale King, converted the Dreambenders to worshipping him, leaving Radiance almost entirely forgotten. From there, the Pale King created the kingdom of Hallownest, and for a time was very prosperous.
Soon, however, through lingering memories, and invading dreams, Radiance began spreading her influence once again. Intentionally or no, those who succumbed to her will became infested by a plague. This plague made one faster, stronger, and could even revive their corpse after death, but they no longer retained their will, and were left empty husks of who they once were.
As this infection spread through Hallowmest, some carved out their eyes attempting to escape the light, and others tried to use souls to fight it. The king, however, knew the plague was not an illness, but Radiance herself, and so he decided to create an entirely empty being from the Radiance’s natural enemy; the Void.
[i]”No cost too great.
No mind to think.
No will to break.
No voice to cry suffering.
[...]
You are the Hollow Knight.”[/i] -The Pale King
Without a mind, or will of its own, the Radiance couldn’t possibly control this Vessel, and by trapping her within its mind, the plague would be stopped. It worked, and the Hollow Knight was sealed away, along with Radiance. Knowing that dreams held power, as an extra measure he created the three Dreamers, who entered an eternal sleep as a final seal to stop any from entering the Hollow Knight’s chamber.
He also may or may not have murdered all the Dreambenders, after sealing the Dream Nail away since it was the only weapon that could break the Dreamers’ seal, but whether or not it was him, the Dreambenders all died, and the Dream Nail was sealed.
But that is where he made the mistake. For, despite what he thought, the Hollow Knight was not empty, and ever so slowly Radiance began to take over his mind. Seeping from the Temple of the Black Egg, the plague spread again, but without the Dream Nail, they could not break the seal on the Temple, and so they couldn’t replace the Hollow Knight.
The King secluded himself in his castle as the world crumbled around him. Radiance tore the kingdom apart, slowly corrupting those she could reach with their dreams, and using them to murder anyone she couldn’t. And then, once the kingdom of Hallownest was nothing but a ruin, the plague vanished as quickly as it came.
That is, until the other Vessels who escaped decided to come home..
[i]”No mind to think..
No will to break..
No voice to cry suffering..”[/i][/spoiler]
That’s all for now folks! Jambuhbye!
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1 ReplyHZD has a good one
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1 ReplyFFX comes to mind for me
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2 RepliesFallout and Metro 2033 as well as Wasteland.
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1 Reply[quote]Favorite “civilization downfall” stories in games?[/quote] My civ when I start a game on Diety
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1 ReplyThe Ancient Civilization of Monster Hunter was pretty crazy to read about. Without giving too much away, mankind created something pretty twisted to make what would equate to the dragon gods mad.
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2 RepliesTerran Confederacy
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2 RepliesEdited by N00bMaster69: 8/4/2018 7:32:40 PMReally liked half life's version. We don't go to ravenholm was cool.
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1 ReplyI’d have to go with. 1)Metro Redux. 2) BioShock 1 &2 3) Gears Of War.
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1 ReplyI liked the downfall of New York in The Division because of how it was all caused by one guy.
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1 ReplyI love the Fallout games.
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1 ReplyThe Pthumerians (and to some extent the Yharnamites). They worshiped the Great Ones as gods, only to be destroyed after dabbling too far into blood experiments. All part of the Moon Presence's plan, I guess.
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3 RepliesEdited by ElGuapo General: 8/2/2018 12:58:11 AMI’d have to go with the dwemer in Skyrim. The collapse in destiny is also interesting.
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8 RepliesI found "The Dollar Flu" interesting. Circulated paper currency used to transmit some crazy disease.
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3 RepliesThe downfall of humanity in Sunset: Overdrive is simultaneously hilarious and sad. Almost everyone gets mutated into a disgusting monster due to guzzling an experimental soft drink at a rock concert. And even the characters who are left over as humans are complete d-bags. Kinda creepy how closely this mirrors modern-day America, huh?
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8 RepliesGears of War! The fall of Sera is tragic, even Cole Train was hit hard!
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4 RepliesThe lore of Gears has always been fascinating to me
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3 RepliesHorizon Zero Dawn. Won't explain why. Needs to be experienced for one's self.
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1 ReplyHorizon zero Dawn
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3 RepliesMass Effect comes to mind. Particularly the Protheans.
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6 RepliesI can think of three or so civilizations: -The Orokin Empire of Warframe: [spoiler]At their height, they could see their fall coming due to their heavy drain of resources. Little did they know that their attempts to rectify this issue would only create more issues. Everything they created would turn against them, but it would not entirely be from the sentient’s schemes. Their general attitudes, their hubris, their mistreatment of others would all lead to their fall.[/spoiler] -The Kingdom of Almire from Spiral Knights: [spoiler]Once the strongest of three or four kingdoms sharing borders, the other kingdoms united to destroy a common foe, and managed to force the king to flee into the mountains. Little did they know, the king found something in those mountains. An old shrine to a dark god. Unknowingly, he earned the god’s favour, and with it he became the source of an eternal flame. The forces of the three kingdoms burned, but so did Almire. Now the king stands in his burning citadel, defending the ashes from any perceived threat.[/spoiler] The Empire of Warhammer Fantasy: [spoiler]Really, this was part of the fall of multiple civilizations. Apparently there was a series of books detailing the End Times of the Warhammer Fantasy universe, in which the Chaos Gods would unite their forces, make what few allies they could, and turn every blade they had into what foes they had, the gods that would defend them, and the world they fought upon. The Empire and their allies fought hard, but there was no saving them, unless you count Age of Sigmar.[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesEdited by Bopsheezi: 8/1/2018 8:09:07 PMOooh, how about the story of the Warriors of Darkness, from Final Fantasy XIV. There was once one world, then more worlds split off and developed from that one world. Each world had a different balance of Light and Dark, some leaning one way, and some more balanced. Our story takes place in the First World (not the Original World). The First World's Dark was so weak, our "heroes" (called Warriors of Light at the time), we're so successful in their fight, they managed to completly eradicate the First World's Darkness. This allowed Light to flourish unchecked, eventually threatening to destroy the First World in a void of Light. They strike a deal with the emissaries of Dark, the Ascians, to work for them in the player's world, in hopes of restoring their own.
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1 ReplyEdited by The Dovahk: 8/1/2018 6:08:46 PMI cant think of many. Either Fallout or the cycle of downfalls in Mass Effect. EDIT: Those are runner-ups. The downfall of the Dwemer is the best example of this.
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1 ReplyDwemer in Elder Scrolls Protheans in Mass Effect The Covenant in Halo Terran Confederacy in Starcraft
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3 RepliesI liked the way that the Tevinter Imperium lost the majority of its power in the Dragon Age series. They started off as this tribe in the north that eventually grew to command all of the continent of Thedas, only to be beaten by revolts and rebelling armies. They're still around, but a shell of their former selves who can't even win a war against grey, horned Communists on a single island.
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5 RepliesNier and the white chlorination syndrome.
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12 RepliesNieR: Automata. The story of civilization’s downfall gets more and more f*cked up the farther you get into the game.