Factions.... you forgot factions

Don’t forget the terrible consumable shader system

I can probably explain away some of this (at least with regards to loot). Their first and (in my opinion) biggest mistake was to get rid of randomized perk rolls on weapons and armor, because they did that, they [i]shrank[/i] the loot pool. Because they shrank the loot pool by getting rid of randomized perks AND deciding not to at least include all of the old guns, vehicles, and armor along with the new guns, vehicles, and armor to flesh things out, they then had to ditch vendor inventories, because they didn't really have anything to stock them with, they needed to have a way to make it more "challenging" to collect weapons and sets of armor, so they swapped shop inventories with pure RNG. Smaller loot pools also meant bad RNG, which is mainly why people keep getting multiple copies of crap they've found dozens of times before (though I wouldn't put a throttled algorithm past Bungie either at this rate). Also because they shrank the loot pools by getting rid of randomized perks, they decided not to include faction weapons and armor as possible drops during activities and crucible matches, this once again was done to make collecting more "challenging", ultimately in an effort to keep people playing the game. All of this was done (for some -blam!- reason) to attract more brain dead casuals into the game, and I suspect the reason behind that is because "brain dead casuals" make the perfect suckers who will be more likely to buy shit. The thing is, they already HAD a sizable fan base to make money off of. All they had to do was focus on making an actually good game, they didn't even need to change much as far as the mechanics are concerned, they basically had most of their work done for them with Destiny 1. All they had to do was listen to their fan base, tweak what needed to be tweaked, work on a good story and graphics, and produce a likeable game, and the money would follow, but noOOooo.. for SOME reason [i]that[/i] wasn't good enough, they had to waste time completely overhauling what they already had, and run out of time on their stupid contract, and hastefully throw a turd in a box that chased away their sizable fan base, and -blam!- themselves and their fans over. Sorry if I rambled a bit.. it's.. well, you understand...

There's a reason for all this. 1) Bungie needs content to add to dlc 2) bungie is lazy 3) they want Destiny 2 to be in the best shape just before they release D3. How else would you buy D3? I don't know how they'll address static rolls though.

They utterly oversimplified everything. I can understand them wanting to make it slightly more simple to attract more casuals, but EVERYONE left. Their new casuals and us veterans rofl.

This is the saddest part for me. By the end of D1's life cycle they had an amazing game. D2 should have built on that and been a massive expansion not a canned plain sequel that only had pre-TTK game design. I still play 5-10 hours per week but very few people in my clan are still active. This is worse than when the Division came out especially when there isn't even really another AAA competitor game out there.

I 100 % agree - In D2, the overall dumbing-down of the game and removal of any meaningful endgame has caused this backlash. I don't agree with a lot of changes made to D2 from a "this is how the game works" point of view - but everything would have been OK of there were meaningful things to do. and meaningful stuff to GET. - Heroic Strikes: I know these are coming with Osiris DLC - but will there be modifiers to make it fun, or strike-specific loot to make it, worth doing past being fun) ?? - Hard mode: raid gear, with raid specific perks, not only color changed. Weapons what were locked into the hard mode, ie the only way to get X weapon is in the hard mode. - Random weapon roles: or keep the fixed roles and give us a mod system that is not so useless). - More crucible playmodes: Put in Rumble, Rift, Combined arms, inferno, mayhem - stick all the fun stuff and game modes into its own 3rd playlist - with 6v6. How about private Matches ?? I think there are solutions to these problems and I hope that Bungie realizes sooner rather than later that there were things at the end of D1 that should have carried over to D2. Things that would have made it a lot more fun. Is D2 a BAD game, NO - but there is so much potential wasted and it should have been so much more. Do I feel bad for getting it, or the DLCs - NO - they're all paid for months ago. and I will play when there is actually stuff to do or get.

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They were removed so they can be added back and give the players the sense of “content”, the sense that we are being listened to, the sense that we are getting our money’s worth and at the same time getting a great game that we certainly were’t expecting. It’s all a lie. -blam!-ing flying unicorns are more real than Bungie.

They took what felt like a rather skilled and grind heavy game to a shallow, any one can pick this up and play it for 20 hours and be done with it game

Queue moron fanboy logic: "But but but.....its a new game...D1 started out the same way..yoy cant compare vanilla D2 with a finished game." *bangs head on desk repeatidly* That argument is like swiss cheese......full of holes.

I agree with you on 100% of this. I think a thing to do with tokens if to have inventory for each vendor and you can choose between turning in for packages or purchasing the item you want. And item should cost how much it cost to get 1 level of upgrading. Crucible and strikes should be way more rewarding with tokens and not just for faction rally tokens should be for regular gameplay as well. I do think that random rolls should be i introduced. There are so many guns and so many perks to play with but you can't get that rolls you want to play with. Mods need to be changed. Mods are very irrelevant and not very much "modding" anything.

I wish I had an answer. Bungie didn't just shoot them selves in the foot with Destiny 2, they shot their damn foot off!!

I was kinda hoping that improvements would happen to the strike scoring. Something like, if I’m doing strikes with randoms, i can get paired with people on an equal footing, because we’ve accumulated so many medals or something. Idk. Just taking stuff away.. c’mon