...that Bungie needs to spend less time telling people that they are playing the game wrong. You like hanging back and sniping? You are playing the game wrong because we don't want to program the AI to deal with it, so we will basically take away your sniper rifle. You thought being able to juggle back and forth between a shotgun/fusion rifle and primary weapon was fun? WRONG! You will now have TWO PRIMARY WEAPONS AND LIKE IT, because crucible! You are over the age of 30 and enjoyed the social aspect of PvE and had little interest in crucible? WRONG! We must make crucible the star of the show and have everything in PvE revolve around the crucible experience. Look, in all of history, there has never been a moment when people have had something they wanted taken away from them and they were happy about it. Now I understand you wanting to balance PvP. You want people to have an equal experience. I don't understand why you keep trying to tell us that we are playing PvE wrong. Why do you care? You have made SUCH strides forwards in the campaign. It looks SO much better, and it looks like a story I want to play. But you made playing it so much less interesting. I spent the whole of the strike hopping around unloading primary weapons into the enemies other that the 5-12 heavy weapon shots that were totally underwhelming for the fact the it took me the WHOLE damn strike to gather that many. And you say that you are going to increase the drop rate of heavy ammo, but unless you increase it to the drop rate secondaries used to have, it isn't going to be enough, especially since I only get to have sniper or shotgun or rocket launcher or fusion rifle. Less options in PvE = less fun, whereas apparently less options is PvP = more fun, not that I would really know or care. You have also removed so many options from the possible upgrades that the subclasses have, so that everything is toned down and similar feeling. PvE players LIKE to be able to select radically different loadouts and earn upgrades as they play. But the changes take away a large chunk of the options that used to exist. These are clearly all designed to make everything so similar to balance PvP, all because you are so damned determined that the game is better if it is the same experience for PvP as PvE. Let me be reiterate what has been said by literally everyone here. WRONG! Look, it is so easy. All you need to do is work on making the story mode PvE work, and the in PvP you have Lord Shaxx determine that players are getting sloppy in their primary weapon use, so for this match everyone is limited to primaries only. Lord Shaxx has determined that secondaries are under utilized by Guardians out in the field, so guardians will spawn with a clip of secondary. Lord Shaxx wants guardians to practice with their Light powers so every guardian's super will be fully charged every 3 minutes. Lord shaxx has determined that in this match every player in each class will have their entire skills setup pre-determined by him. Lord Shaxx thinks Guardians are relying too much on their legendaries and exotics, so for this match during loading everyone must select their weapons from a pre-determined selection of common weapons and armor, and so on. This has the benefit of adding even more story to the game (it doesn't matter what people are actually doing in the game. As lord Shaxx would be using the crucible to, oh I don't know, TRAIN GUARDIANS! The modifiers applied don't have to actually be relevant to actual player results in PvE campaign they are just there to balance PvP.) Though I would hope it would go without saying that this would not be a random modifier added to matches. People would select the experience that they want. Because this is a GAME. Not everyone wants to play a game the same way. Letting PLAYERS decide how they want to play should be the goal. So, to summarize. More options in PvE = more fun. More balance in PvP = more fun. THESE TWO ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. Edit - oh yeah, have decided to cancel pre-order for now. Sorry, am just really underwhelmed by the changes.