Most guns seem to lose all follow up shot accuracy after the 3rd or 4th round if you are at their top fire rate other than AUTOS AND SMGS. Take the arc scout rifle with full auto, tap fired it's accurate full auto or close and it's horribly inaccurate. Hand cannons - They are DEAD ACCURATE now as in no shots miss if you are on target. The Auto rifles (Scathelock and the energy one) - are perfect for their purpose and range I really hope they don't change that. Sidearms - still OP in Crucible I got the Kinetic one and it has more range than the SMGS and does about 38 to the head 30 to the body at optimal range of about 35ft. Scouts - They "seem" to be less accurate even with the first shot fired from time to time. SMGs - I am not a Fan of them, low damage, high recoil and low accuracy, they fit where sidearms dominate now and it's kind of meaningless to have 2 weapon types with less than 50ft range. MDL - (Grenade launcher) no real problem other than odd sights. Sniper/Linear Fusion - both are OK but have low total ammo count. Pulse rifles - They have "Lower" damage than D1 but still dominate because of slow Time to kill, I played many matches in PVP and a good Pulse rifle user can flank and kill 2 people before the enemy team realizes that they are being attacked from behind. Standard Fusion Rifles/Rockets - nothing has changed both are good but Fusion is PvP while Rocket is PvE Grenades -hardly kill anymore which I'm glad about... FOR PVP! BUT IN PVE YOU NEED TO BE A WARLOCK WITH THE CHAOS ACCELERANT TO KILL 1 TARGET OR TRIPMINE OR LIGHTNING GRENADE I genuinely hate how a Grenade is this weak. Melee - other than shoulder charge being tied in with the melee charge and the hunters knife acting like a second grenade everything seems OK. Supers - Golden Gun is essentially PVP only now because it's horrible for PVE damage right now. (suggesting 40% damage buff to overall damage) Arcstrider is weak since you cannot speed up or change dirrections mid air anymore. Titans are balanced for the most part. Warlocks have the ability to drain the Super to increase grenade damage, This is very OP in Crucible.(Axion bolt + 1/2 super drain is 4 mini Nova Bomb seekers) The Beta was good but with so little shown off in it I feel like even just seeing Nessus in the full game will bother me unless the story is good for that part. Overall I love it so far, but the Weapons need to be "re-sighted" because they miss too much. I severely hope that the 2 other armor sets featured in the Beta are NOT Vanguard/Crucible because I hate the Crucible set and the Vanguard set Looks Like RIOT GEAR ON A HUNTER.