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1/10/2017 5:14:12 PM
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Because the Alt-Right doesn't actually exist. Those who claim to be are meming. Those who Claim the Alt-Right is anything at all are forging a boogyman.
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[quote]Because the Alt-Right doesn't actually exist. Those who claim to be are meming. Those who Claim the Alt-Right is anything at all are forging a boogyman.[/quote]So who exactly are these new crop of what I can only assume fall under "fascists"?
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There is no "new crop." Stormfront has always been stormfront and will always be Stormfront. The "Alt-Right" is a bunch of boogymen.
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[quote]There is no "new crop." Stormfront has always been stormfront and will always be Stormfront. The "Alt-Right" is a bunch of boogymen.[/quote] But there's a lot more of them now.
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A lot more, or more vocal? More vocal, maybe. That kind of thing happens when you alienate a good chunk of the population by calling them deplorables.
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[quote]A lot more, or more vocal? More vocal, maybe. That kind of thing happens when you alienate a good chunk of the population by calling them deplorables.[/quote] I mean, that's what they are..
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So, you're saying that half the people who voted for trump are deplorable? Because that's exactly what Hilary said.
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[quote]So, you're saying that half the people who voted for trump are deplorable? Because that's exactly what Hilary said.[/quote] I don't know about the exact number, but Donald has some pretty deplorable policies, and a lot of people support those deplorable policies, making them deplorable people.
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Max, that is why Hilary lost the election. It's like Romney's 47% comment. You cannot alienate vote base.
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[quote]Max, that is why Hilary lost the election. It's like Romney's 47% comment. You cannot alienate vote base.[/quote] What deplorable policies should Hillary have adopted to persuade deplorable people to vote for her?
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The one where you don't call a large voting base deplorable because some memers on the internet were making frog memes. Not only did she lose because of it, she also created a voice for the real dregs of society to come out of the wood work. Then the media took it and ran. The speech in Reno was her campaign's death knell.
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[quote]The one where you don't call a large voting base deplorable because some memers on the internet were making frog memes. Not only did she lose because of it, she also created a voice for the real dregs of society to come out of the wood work. Then the media took it and ran. The speech in Reno was her campaign's death knell.[/quote] Why do you have a problem with Hillary calling people deplorable, but not with Trump calling Mexicans rapists and criminals?
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Because he didn't call Mexicans Rapist and Criminals. He said that some illegal immigrants end up being rapist and criminals while also stating that he assumes some are good people too. Are you assuming that the only people who enter this country illegally are Mexicans? Isn't that a little racist?
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[quote]Because he didn't call Mexicans Rapist and Criminals. He said that some illegal immigrants end up being rapist and criminals while also stating that he assumes some are good people too. Are you assuming that the only people who enter this country illegally are Mexicans? Isn't that a little racist?[/quote] No, he said "I assume some of them are good people" when talking about Mexicans.
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But this was all in reference to illegal immigrants. Not Immigrants, and Not Mexican-Americans. There is a big distinction here.
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[quote]But this was all in reference to illegal immigrants. Not Immigrants, and Not Mexican-Americans. There is a big distinction here.[/quote] Right, and Trump is the one who called Mexicans rapists and criminals. So, that's fine, but Hillary's "deplorables" is a problem?
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[quote][quote]But this was all in reference to illegal immigrants. Not Immigrants, and Not Mexican-Americans. There is a big distinction here.[/quote] Right, and Trump is the one who called Mexicans rapists and criminals. So, that's fine, but Hillary's "deplorables" is a problem?[/quote] It's ok to alienate a group of people who don't vote. White people vote ([i]very[/i] reliably). Illegal immigrants do not. Even the legal immigrants which [i]do[/i] vote (which is not a big/reliable a population as the white vote) have a large population which is either very religious or have a "-blam!- you guys I got mine" mentality and voted Trump.
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The one where she didn't cheat Bernie out of the nomination by colluding with the DNC and it's operatives. - Der
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[quote]The one where she didn't cheat Bernie out of the nomination by colluding with the DNC and it's operatives. - Der[/quote] Lol the entire RNC [i]and[/i] media colluded against Trump and he still won. The DNC's meddling against Sanders was seriously a non-issue in regard to the primary. The fact that the left got so angry about that is downright pathetic. If Sanders were the better candidate, he would have won like Trump did.
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In the primaries Trump received the lion's share of coverage and it was almost exclusively positive. That all changed once he was the nominee (as it always does for Republicans) and it turned negative going into the general. - Der
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[quote]In the primaries Trump received the lion's share of coverage and it was almost exclusively positive. That all changed once he was the nominee (as it always does for Republicans) and it turned negative going into the general. - Der[/quote] I don't recall [i]ever[/i] hearing anything positive about the man who wanted to build a wall, called POWs losers, and wasn't acting presidential at all... Unless you mean that he received the lion's share of media coverage which is positive for him by default since it's exposure. All I heard about him was how hateful he was and how he'd never convert Americans into his fans.
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[quote]A new report from Harvard Kennedy School’s Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy analyzes news coverage of the 2016 presidential candidates in the year leading up to the primaries. This crucial period, labeled “the invisible primary” by political scientists, is when candidates try to lay the groundwork for a winning campaign—with media exposure often playing a make or break role. The report shows that during the year 2015, major news outlets covered Donald Trump in a way that was unusual given his low initial polling numbers—a high volume of media coverage preceded Trump’s rise in the polls. Trump’s coverage was positive in tone—he received far more “good press” than “bad press.” The volume and tone of the coverage helped propel Trump to the top of Republican polls.[/quote] - Der
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but that article is talking about [i]all[/i] of 2015, right? As in including before "we're gonna build a wall"?
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Yes, that would include the primaries. FYI, he came out of the gate with "We're gonna build a wall". [quote]I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively, I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall.[/quote] From his announcement speech, June 16th 2015 - Der
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[quote]Yes, that would include the primaries. FYI, he came out of the gate with "We're gonna build a wall". [quote]I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively, I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall.[/quote] From his announcement speech, June 16th 2015 - Der[/quote] Perhaps why I thought it was so negative is because I generally only paid attention to coverage of issues (of which only [url=http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/media-study-trump-helped-clinton-hurt-224300]12%[/url] of the coverage surrounding him was related to) which I found his stances on to be overwhelmingly terrible. Surprisingly only 43% of that 12% of the time was aired negatively in 2015. Hell, [url=http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/study-election-coverage-skewed-by-journalistic-bias/]PBS[/url] only gave it 11% in regard to leadership abilities and whatnot. That's pathetic.
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[quote]The one where she didn't cheat Bernie out of the nomination by colluding with the DNC and it's operatives. - Der[/quote] We're talking general election here, not primary.
