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Edited by Just Dave Man:
10/2/2016 12:22:00 PM
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Shotguns in PvP are putting Crucible in it's worst state since Thorngate
Every game its just blink, roll, slide shoulder charge shotgunners 1 shotting across the room. This is the reason I left Destiny 1 year ago because I had enough finally. Shotguns have been a problem since launch. Bungie "nerfed" them once but then gave everybody Conspiracy Theory D with crazy range AND rangefinder on it. Now the Matador is the only weapon in Crucible until Gally comes out on Heavy, there are very few players using primaries.
The really flawed game design with shotguns is that there are so many ways to close the distance effectively, they do not need the kind of insane range that they have if you have things like blink, shoulder charge, slide etc. Range should be toned down a fair amount from 6m to about 4-4.5m. If they do have range then they should have at least a 25% slower fire rate so they cannot be mashed from mid range in 2 shots. The kill times are stupid at the moment when compared with other "options".
I would also argue that the cone of fire from a shotgun is thick enough that it shouldnt need the largest of cross hairs to aim it. That big white ring of death for a cross hair really shows that shotguns take 0 skill or strategy. In the current state, pvp is at its worst ever due to the shotgun situation and its driving more of my friends away from pvp and the game in general.
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1 ReplyThis is happening more now because they nerfed snipers. Sniping kept shotgunners at bay. People who came in this forum and complained all day about it made the crucible the way it is.
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1 ReplyThis is nothing compared to when before shotguns were nerfed the re-buffed.
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Shotguns in Destiny have such low range compared to shotguns in plenty of other games. If they made the range of shotguns any lower... Well, you've seen how much use the 4th Horseman gets...
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As every supposed "sniper" player was telling everyone who said anything about snipers prior: Adapt or if you prefer Git Gud.
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I get mostly all my kills with my favorite weapon and my first trials weapon and perfect rolls. One guess(it's in my character) Op is a tomato
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I know right. It's worse than the shotgun meta...
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4 RepliesThis is the result of every crying about pulse rifles, then snipers, and now were left with shotguns. Maybe this time actually buff the primaries that are lacking and undo some of that sniper flinch and shit will be ok again.
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How is an effective one shot kill range of only 15 feet and in OP? How is it not balanced just because a specific game type (supremacy) favors specific weapons. Trials still has PLENTY of sniping. Clash, plenty of sniping Pretty much every game type that isn't close quarters is fine. Snipers still kill across the map with one shot. Fusions still kill from 25feet and in Why is it so hard to adjust?
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Its funny how the try hards say git gud as if its a hurtful comment. Pushing that soft spot on your head isnt a pass time activity. Seriously thou i use shotguns and and i think consipiracy theorys range is out of control that shit can 1 shot you acroos the room. While we are talking about bs range that trespassers range is insane and needs to be toned down. I got wrecked from a insane distance. That shouldnt be possible with a side arm. I wouldnt mind if it took a full clip or something to kill me from that range but got damn 2 trigger pulls from that range is some bs.
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Yeah, it is not my playstyle. .. so I just play as I normally would, usually finish on bottom. However, I focus on the bounties and already have two players at rank 5, with great loot!
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1 ReplyYour gud needs more git
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3 RepliesAt first, I was upset about the range on shotguns. Then I looked up the range on real shotguns. Found out that the bare minimum for effective range, with the weakest of the spreading rounds, something called a birdshot, is 45 yards. That's insane. Imagine 45 Yards, for effective range for a Crucible match. LMAO. Of course, this could be just false info, and I may have looked up the wrong information.
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5 RepliesThe Thorn era was the last time I enjoyed the crucible. By the way, Red Death > Thorn
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Juggernaut shotgun is the only thing that actually gives me problems.
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4 RepliesNo skill for a shotty? I'm tired of hearing this. I snipe and run shotty pending on the map and both take skill to do. If I can close the distance on you, then I'm blowing your hardscoping chest in. Watch the radar and see the person coming. It's not hard to counter shotguns and it's not hard to counter snipers. Adapt and use the map to advantages. Watch radar. Stop crying when everyone plays the same game. Everybody deals with it but only a few come on here to whine about it and it's getting old and dumb
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The exaggeration is strong with this one. They have made the jump to Hyperbole Space
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2 RepliesAnd Bama its almost impossible to defend a shotgun esp when it seems they are the most powerful in game now and ppl can pretty much snipe you with one clear across a room. Which is bullshit. A shotgun doesnt have range like that. Im sorry but if you try and kill someone from across the room they should not only laugh but be able to walk away.
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Edited by jdw1382: 10/5/2016 6:14:32 PMAgreed. These one trick poneys are annoying. Last night got pretty much sniped with a shotgun. There s no -blam!-ing way that dude shouldve killed me esp when im blasting him with a pulse rifle. U blast and blast and blast and like no -blam!-ing health goes down and bam just like your dead and they have almost full health. Its starting to become absolutely no fun. That and ppl hiding in a -blam!-ing corner to one hit you is a bitch move and too many be doing it.
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2 RepliesAww someone misses their camp site
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1 Reply"Thorngate" was great because it was the last time that at least a few primaries could stand up to the one-shot potential of snipers and shotguns. All primaries need to be buffed and then shotguns would no longer be a problem
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5 RepliesI like it people move now.
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32 RepliesEdited by Flintkid810 : 10/2/2016 10:04:59 PMDuring TTK shotguns got nerfed into oblivion, 99% of everyone agrees they are not op and in a good place. Then they got nerfed some more. Later on: Fusion rifles & side arms get buffs. Sniper rifles get nerfed. Shotguns don't change what so ever. Now, somehow now shotguns are back to being overpowered. Community logic.
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You must be a sniper having a hard time in IB. Hint, join the shotgun we fun. I don't use one of the meta shotguns and do just fine.
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Played 20+ games of IB and have yet to be killed by a primary weapon. No joke! The only thing killing me is supers and shotguns. Crucible was always a mess but now it's irritating as -blam!- to play.
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Yeah they have ruined it.
