I was wondering if many people here were playing and interested in deciphering the lore a bit. Right now my main goal is figure out if dark souls 2 has any real connection especially in geography as from the opening cutscene parts of dranleic are on the way to the current area along the route of pilgrimage, rather than built on top of old anor londo. It seems that 2 is mostly ignored besides the presence of Giants. Some other questions are what is the profaned flame and why are hollows becoming trees. Some of the gear and look of the pilgrims implies the world was seeded and the back coverings both keep them from growing like the tree hollows and "prevent" seed of themselves. Though with the pilgrim butterflies this was a hopeless cause. Looking at the geography of the game there also doesn't seem to be a huge difference from dark souls one with transient kingdoms meaning time not location. I've got most of the lore figured out from Reddit but there are a few questions that will really get the last parts to click. Edit: almost forgot the deep vs the abyss discussion. Personally I think the deep and abyss are synonymous but manus corrupted the deep creating what we know better as the abyss as a now corrupting aspect of the deep Edit 2: it appears that at least lothric has actually moved or been "raised" so I may be wrong about things shifting more than general continental drift in that world. For example the dragon eyrie is in a desert now, possibly carthas.