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Edited by RogueRossie: 4/6/2016 6:33:56 AM
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Nerf after nerf. Will it ever end?

It's always something. Always something considered over powered. And the solution everyone jumps to is to nerf that thing. [i]Nerf, nerf, nerf[/i]. It will just make people target the weapons/abilities which have been left untouched because they were fine before the nerfing of their competitors. [spoiler]An example: MIDA Multitool. Throughout year 1, it was considered underwhelming. Some thought it needed a buff. It was just an average scout which made you run fast. Bungie nerf handcannons and buff pulses, scouts and autos in the 2.0 update. MIDA is basically unchanged. Scouts start to get popular, people request a year 2 variant of MIDA Multitool. They get it. Everyone snatches it as soon as possible and go straight into the crucible with it. A sudden spike in usage of the Multitool causes some to assume it is over powered, just because it killed them in PvP. Everyone hops on the band wagon and begin calling for the MIDA to be nerfed. It's not killing any faster than before, but because it is being frequently used people just assume it is more powerful than it needs to be. The sole reason people think it's overpowered is because they got its previous competitors nerfed. Wipe out the wolf, and the deer will thrive. Too many deer become a problem, so a cull might be a solution, or, just reintroduce the wolf. [/spoiler] So I request this. Rather than reducing the power of everything until they are near useless, I suggest asking Bungie to [i]buff the things which can't compete with the "overpowered" guns/abilities[/i]. [b]Buff[/b] fusion rifles, sidearms and shotguns. Snipers are no longer overpowered. [b]Buff[/b] Voidwalker, Defender, Bladedancer and Sunbreaker. Sunsingers and Stormcallers are no longer overpowered. [b]Buff[/b] low/medium RoF auto rifles. High RoF autos (DoP) are no longer overpowered. Disagree if you will, just don't use your anonymity as a means to allow for a derogatory or violent response. Edit: [spoiler]Concerns over power creep: there should always be nerfs to prevent this, we don't want CoD style ttk's in Destiny, but this post aimed to show the crippling effect [i]too many nerfs[/i] are having on the game. It's startling to me to hear people think snipers are overpowered as nobody really thought so until shotguns were nerfed, for example. Here's hoping they don't nerf things too harshly in the update, but we'll all find out later on today. Thanks for all of the kind responses, it's been great reading all of your replies :)[/spoiler]

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  • Once they opened Pandoras nerf box it can not be closed. Nerfs are here to stay it's why you save your favorite guns cause after awhile they will be good again. It's a never ending cycle in hopes of keeping the pvp fresh and giving new players a chance to catch up to( git grud ). That's my two cents have a good one

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  • I can tell u the future.......all the armors which have special ammo increments perks will get nerfed after 4-5 months. The bungie team will show us their charts, and then nerf armors granting extra special ammo.

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  • It won't stop.

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  • it will never end as long as this game exists to cater to every whiney lil bitch that plays.

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  • Nerfing since day one. Wether for better or worse. Mostly worse and mostly things that most of the community don't even ask for. The crying will never stop. Adapting never seems to be an alternative to players. Either way it is now tradition here. All we can look foward to is what will be the next thing or weapon people will cry about after this nerf. Just a matter of time. It is inevitable.

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  • Completely agree

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  • They should just make a game mode where only pre Nerf vex is allowed

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  • honestly at this rate nlb going to be op

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  • Will it ever stop? Yo, I don't know.

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  • Nerf infinity and beyond!

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  • You know, I'm afraid Bungie's answer shall be this...

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  • Un-nerf everything

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  • I agree. It's a pretty easy pattern to see and I have no idea why Bungie keeps doing this. Buffing the other things would help tremendously to restore the balance. That, or reset everything back to vanilla settings and go from there. I honestly feel like they have no real testing going on. They just tweak some things, call it good and throw it to the lions to see what happens. Crucible in the beginning was fun. As soon as they started changing things with their "math" that has seemingly consistently been incorrect otherwise we wouldn't have these problems anymore, things started going downhill. PvE suffers a lot from the PvP changes and I wish they would just keep them separate. There will always be someone whining no matter what change is made because often times when you try to "fix" something that wasn't really broken in the first place, you end up giving yourself more issues than before.

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  • I agree , it got what little nerf it did because of Popularity, im glad it was a Relatively minor Nerf ,knowing Bungie they could have made it Really bad so ill take what they gave us .

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  • Nope

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  • I agree with all the buffs as long as sunsinger and stormcaller are nerfed. Then balanced will be achieved.

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  • Unfortunately, it is the players ruining the game. Bungie only implement nerfs based on feedback. Those that complain and whinge for no reason are the ones ruining the game. Ironically, when the changes are made, those same people aren't satisfied and want it to be reversed.

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    • Nerf it

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      • Nerfing won't end... It's the nature of this title of game. This is the only way the game will change.

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      • Edited by Oblixious: 5/9/2024 1:05:22 AM
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        • Sadly no. People always want to bitch about something.

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          • I say we just get rid of all weapons and specials in the game and throw rocks at enemies! Who's with me?

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            • I suppose I do agree w. This. My biggest issue right now is snipers. Body shot damage, handling, & the minimal flinch. Honestly, how are you supposed to push a team of snipers that cover each other's angles..? If one shot doesn't kill you, it takes 90% of your health. Then there's 2 others that haven't even shot yet... There's one way to challenge that, another sniper. You have to really sit there & hardscope a lane waiting for someone to challenge so you can get a pick & push collapse... That's literally the only way. You can't just rush in like mad blinking & shotgunning like you could in Y1. You will get dumped on for trying such things. However, if they propose buffs then snipers become challengeable again. Just as they were all Y1. But right now, snipers are so much better than everything else. It's an issue when you can body shot-swap to primary-body shot, faster than you can just outright kill somebody w. most primaries... Unless they're gunna buff everything, and bring kill times up for ALL primaries, then body shot damage needs to go...170's way too much. Still should be a 2 shot kill for 1000yd but just enough of a damage nerf so one body shot from a hand cannon won't kill somebody. Headshot, sure. No body though. because that shits flat out cheap. Even a MIDA will kill someone after getting bodied by 1000yd...THAT is broken. But if I can kill someone quick w. A primary...then these things wouldn't matter. That's my response to people who say snipers haven't been touched since launch, why now? Because they're the strongest/easiest to use special in the game right now...hence why everyone uses them.

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              • I agree.but most people seem to be whiners so instead of nerf this,nerf that it will change in buff this buff that.i think the only solution is to give every one the exact same gun.then hope and pray to the Lord that it will fix this baby mentality.greetz

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              • The idiots on here need to realize bungie will forever nerf/buff things. Its how persistent online games work and they always need constant tweaking. I wish they would have tweaks more often (it would shut people up). People would get used to them tweaking things small every month or so. The current once every 6-9 months really is too long to tweak things.

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              • Did u say the word buff me no understande ,nerf is the only word I know

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