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Edited by AlarmingList540:
2/9/2016 1:06:17 AM
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Fix The Smoke/Vortex Crutch AKA The Wombo Combo
It kills way too fast and it's unfair because there's no counter. Don't deny it hunters, it's pretty op.
Edit: We did it 450 replies and every comment is someone saying one of these 3 things:
-Firebolt is more op
-But...but us hunters have to sacrifice a Melee and grenade charge!
-Lol
Yes Firebolt is op, but so is this smoke issue. I don't know why smoke is considered a Melee because it is throwable (that's a word deal with it) but anyways...
[spoiler]bungo plz[/spoiler]
Edit 2: 600 replies. Now everyone is still saying smoke if balanced because it takes a "Melee" charge. Let me tell you something.
Is it truly a Melee if you can throw it like a second grenade? A simple fix would be to buff smoke but make it a grenade, as well as buffing vortex.
Yes, I main a warlock and I'm aware of Firebolt being op. That's not the point of this post however.
Edit 3: Ok yes I am a bit salty about this because we lost our 8-0 trials game against smoke/vortex abusers. I knew it was annoying in the first place but losing an entire trials match because of that is so annoying. Call it op, a crutch, exploit, whatever. It needs a change.
/end rant
Every comment is the same. Read the post and if your comment isn't the same thing everyone says, I'll actually comment and care.
[quote]It's hardly an exploit but yeah, it does need a change and anyone that says otherwise is blind to it.
Just add a simple timer between when you can toss the smoke after a grenade or a grenade after a smoke. Simple fix.[/quote]
-PopSkimo
That's a good fix too.
Should I be proud or ashamed that my first post to hit 1k comments is a salty bitch post? Thanks I guess.
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And people say hunters complain too much smh
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Edited by Caydes Memories: 2/8/2016 8:24:34 PMWhen i play on my nightstalker I absolutely refuse to use this combo. I use smoke/voidwall instead. ;-) Got a double kill in trials last night with it but that isn't common whatsoever. Usually it greatly weakens the people and then I finish them off with one or two shots depending on how long they are stuck in there. Is it good? Yes absolutely. Do I face palm whenever I go against two nightstalkers or one with ahamkara spine (I think it's the spine, double melee charge) you betcha. It does take some skill though. I do say some because anyone can hit the buttons and be effective sometimes. But there are those that absolutely wreck with it. Just like anything else in the game.
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4 RepliesLol could you imagine a nightstalker with max strength with the Monte Carlo? Smoke grenades for days
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Nightstalker has shit grenades so its fair to compensate for having such by giving them a melee that slows targets for the grenade to actually be viable. If you have such a big deal with it then stop hard scoping with the sniper and actually be on the move, you wouldn't face that issue if you did so.
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Im a titan and I think the wombo combo takes some skill to use so I think its fine. Firebolts require no skill whatsoever
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+1 for use of Wombo combo
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A Warlock crying for a Hunter nerf, oh how the tables have turned.
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Does that mean you want throwing knives removed too? Why don't we take away warlock overshields and make them proc on kills like titans do
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Harder than you'd think to pull it off effectively, but if you can it is insanely frustrating.
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Ok take your melee shield away too then
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1 ReplyI'll stick with my bullshit Blink lol
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2 RepliesOr you could just quit crying. I don't see how having to expend both of my abilities to net potentially a single kill can even be considered close to over powered. saying you're a "little" salty is putting that lightly.
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1 ReplyEdited by Star Gazer2: 2/8/2016 4:52:55 PMYou can't fix strategy.
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We should nerf throwing knives too because you can throw them and they're a melee! And nerf warlock melee too because they're throwing electricity/space!
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Honestly it doesn't matter what you use in destiny anymore, if it's good it's dubbed as what an asshole will use, but if you don't use it then you lessen your winning chances in any competitive situation, I'll walk into a trials match with my grasp of Malok and a fusion rifle, instantly the enemy team makes it clear they want to win and are using last work, a one hit super sniper, and a truth or quillims terminus. Problem is a bit on the players for trying so hard like at the end of the day it's a game but a large part is bungie for not knowing the 1-2-3's on weapon balance
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1 ReplyI'd rather face 3 smoke/nade shadesteps in trials than 3 Firebolt Self Res Locks tbh and I main Warlock with bbq nades lol
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Complaining about a grenade mixed with a smoke bomb....that they KILL you...gtfo
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4 Replieswho names this shit?
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2 RepliesI disagree because it costs a grenade and a melee. Any grenade and any melee combo will kill a Gaurdian.
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5 RepliesThe smoke bomb is what makes the vortex grenade good though, without it then vortex would be useless. And what about throwing knifes? You can throw them, they can burn, can take away half your health and you can have two so...are they a problem?
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Firebolt, stormcallers, last word, etc. there's a lot of op shit, don't expect any fixes for another 4-5 months. And when it does get fixed, expect it to be nerfed beyond what was necessary Welcome to destiny
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I think it is as simple as not walking into that combo, its a good combo but situational at best. Its made to "lockdown" (get it) doorways and the like. Besides, sunsingers get the most out of every class (not trying to hate just being honest): melee with great range, extremely powerful melee ability that also gives overshield, 2 firebolts which are great, 2 fusions which home in, stick, and kill with one grenade, self revive, super which gives a ton of those aforementioned grenades, bunch more armor, and recharging melee that gives overshield AND kills in one shot. So yeah, we throw two grenades that are easily avoided and dodge roll to run away...dont even get me started on shadowshot....
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I will give you that sticking people with a smoke is about as easy as sticking people with the sticky nades. However if you get stuck you are dead that is kind of the rule.
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5 RepliesShoulder charge??????
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1 ReplyWhen they fix firebolts I'll be fine with them fixing the wombo combo
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I just think smoke is a pain in the ass, don't think it needs a nerf at all but wouldn't be upset if it got one that didn't ruin it either
