Having no elementals actually means I use less primaries. Think, I would use 3 elementals for nightfalls/strikes and my favorite kinetic for crucible. Now, I only use my kinetic primary for everything. No elementals means more variety? Sure, jan.

Some believe having elemental primaries diluted the users desire to use non elemental weapons. That's true. So they removed them. Their choice. At this point in time, adding elemental primaries will not cause anyone who has left to return, nor will it stop folk from leaving. Content is lacking. Guns are being nerf's every day. Players are already upset. Grinding is old and no longer interesting, especially when a nerf is the norm and nothing is sacred. The dedication players demonstrated in year one is gone, and is not projected to return. They can put any weapon into the game, but they cannot return that initial excitement which caused thousands of us to stay up all night grinding for a Vex, for example! That has been destroyed. Its unfortunate, but true. No-one wants to work when your reward is only going to be revoked/reforged/repurposed/nerf'd. It's hard enough to get the weapon, level it, then get good with it, only to wake up and find it has been destroyed. Changed into a weapon you would never have worked for. I experienced that after having a vault full of year one weapons I had spent thousands of hours grinding for, then their percs were gone! Changed from weapons I had spend >2000 motes reforging into what I wanted, and turned into exactly what I had rejected countless times during reforge. That will never happen again! I guarantee that! Elemental primaries, I still have my Vex Mythoclast. All the others I have destroyed, and discarded their remains in tribute to their memory. One day I will delete the Vex, then the game. It was a weapon, like all other elemental primaries, that had meaning, and stood for the defeat of Atheon in the Hard VOG. A raid which taught that rewards were not guaranteed, but when you got them, they were definitely worth the pain. They were the best weapons in the game. Can anyone say that about the current raid rewards now? I haven't even bothered to complete the TTK raid. I have lost all interest in it, for its rewards aren't worthy of my time and ammo! I return and do the VOG and Crota and remember, I still have that same excitement when the raid weapon drops, then I awaken and realize, it is lost, it was only a memory of times past... New guns mean nothing to me now. I get them, use them and discard them like candy. They are worthless. They artificially prolong the game, some call that difficulty, and waste precious ammo. In a war to save the Universe and Humanity, they are an insult. Anyone thinking that weakened guns make a game more difficult, is already lost... A challenge is having to think and strategize. A challenge isn't spending 200 rounds on a target you spent 50 on yesterday! That’s not a challenge, its a waste of ammo and time... It's a testament to the failure of the design team to create excitement, its cheap programming... It's what has been lost, somehow between POE and TTK. It's as if the Creativity team at Bungie were Taken! Sorry about the rant...

Change your name to Sir Moanalot!! Take the shield down with your special weapon and then finish off with primary, or is weapon switching to difficult for you??? Yep, thought so, scrub!!!

Why not have elemental damage be a perk you can choose in the last column? That would keep weapon diversity.

Elemental primaries is the worst of our problems Get rid of randomized perks and random attack and defense values It took the replay ability right out of raids

Truthfully I don't miss them in the least. Kinetic should be relevant, and primary is the only logical spot. Elemental primaries were a cool experiment but they went against the very essence of the destiny weapons sandbox, which is variety and parity.

Bump for later [spoiler]only need one bump plz[/spoiler]

There are literally great ideas coming from the community like an item that can give a primary an elemental. Then we will continue to have variety while still having elements

Explain your argument on why they are needed? In the early days of destiny we had a definitive fight were elemental primaries were useful. It was a level with vex/fallen, cabal, or hive/fallen and they were useful because you could switch between the types that did most damage for the enemy type. Next time you get into a fight on PVE look at how many different shield types are present in one fight? Phobos for example I remember a purple shielded wizard, a red shielded wizard, and a blue shielded centurion. Explain to me which weapon type you would use and why?

The biggest problem bungie made was to spoil us with the best weapons in the game from VoG right from the start. They seriously made the best weapons right there. Bungie tried hard to make better weapons afterwards but only really succeded because they made an exotic weapon into a legendary (black hammer). And further succeded by introducing reforging thus allowing you to get that perfect roll. Now every weapon is just plain bad. So if they introduce new "good" weapons we will all be awestruck by them and will want to pay for it. Vanilla destiny was best destiny. As simple as that.

I used my Vision of Confluence in this weeks nightfall. I had fun.

I already use the same weapons for PvE anyway so it makes no difference. Elemental primaries don't hurt the game. All your gun nerfs hurt the game. If we had every weapon reset back to its glory days we would all be using different guns.