well, with shotguns getting yet another nerf and fizzies getting tweaked again, everybody is wondering why sniper rifles haven't been hit.
well, they have been, actually, twice now.
LitC and Final Round.
both of these perks have been changed so that they cannot grant a 1-shot body shot kill, but maybe the base sniper-rifle should get tweaked instead?
currently now, no sniper rifle can single-bullet kill any guardian with a body shot, but they can still 2-shot body shot guardians.
am i the only one that thinks THAT should get tweaked, and not the perks themeselves?
my proposal is thusly: lower base sniper damage down considerably, to the point where they match hand-cannons in damage, but in turn greatly amplify their head-shot damage multiplier so that they match their current head-shot damage, which is one-shot-kill. also up their PVE damage so the change is less-so in there.
this way, snipers still reward a true-precision shot, while being almost punishing for spammers, allowing people to confront less-skilled snipers. the LitC and final round perks can be restored to their original glory.
the only problem is sniper body shots will be weaker in PVE, but in turn the increased head-shot multiplier, in conjunction with the increased PVE damage, can make head-shots more rewarding, balancing the damage difference with a higher risk/reward ratio.
or at the very least, increase the precision damage bonuses to LitC/Final Round so that they are more rewarding in PVE (because they got ruined due to PVP).
[b]TL:DR;[/b] make snipers do much less body damage in PVP so they are more rewarding for skilled shots, and less spamm-y with 2 body shot kills. (but in turn head-shots are still 1 shot kills and LutC/FR are back to flat-out bonus damage.)
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1 ReplyThis guy must be a sniper if he wants more headshot damage. Literally my buddy and I don't snipe. Tried it out last night in trials of snipe fest 2015. Put the 1000 yard on with the highest aim assist scope. I may of gotten 2 actual headshots..... the rest I'd miss by 2 feet and the gun would auto correct itself for a headshot, or I wouldn't even know what I'm shooting at in a fire for and get a panic headshot.... like I'd try shooting one guy and the gun would pull to a random person and headshot them. We both ended up going positive I think we were 10 and 2 or something like that. If ya ask me that's pretty broken since we're pretty terrible snipers.
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2 RepliesI don't mind that suggestion dude. Idk why people get super rude in the forums. All you did was suggest something. Getting conversations started is always good. Cuz I for one think something needs to change with snipers. People say they take more skill but honestly not really. The time to kill in this game is so slow that you pretty much have a few second to get your aim right and snipe someone or 2 shot body. I mean I use snipers too so I know. It's annoying goin against em cuz your primaries are basically useless if they're good.
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6 RepliesYou need to shut your mouth, sniping requires skill which you obviously don't have, that's the only reason anyone complains
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Edited by SnareTheToxic: 12/11/2015 3:30:25 AMSnipers have literally been two body shot kills since Halo. Snipers are HIGH POWERED rifles, made to propel a bullet a LONG distance. Of course one shot takes down your shield. Don't fix what ain't broken.
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LitC for a sniper should stay they way it is, and FR was a bad idea from the start. LitC was just a worse version of that, and after Bungie nerfed the FR perk, I was surprised they had LitC on a sniper to begin with (makes no sense). 2 shots to the body isn't that bad, the only thing that should be changed on snipers is the ADS mechanics. By that, I mean have actual mechanics involved when sniping. People can bash CoD sniping and all that mess, but at least they have a sway in the scope. The ability to constantly ADS without any movement whatsoever is stupid, and it just makes people with less skill look better. Just because they can camp, ADS over a door or hallway constantly and press R1/R2.
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4 RepliesThe only thing that needs to be nerfed about snipers is certain archetypes that have way too much aim assist.
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6 RepliesJust lower the aa on 1000 yard stare
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22 RepliesAgreed. All the people who tell you to shut their mouths don't want their precious 1000-yard-aim assists balanced. Sniping takes little to no skill in this game.
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You've failed to mention [i]why[/i] we need to make these changes. We nerf things because they are overpowered, not to make them require more skill. But I Can't say I'm on board with this. For several reasons. For one, it's two body shots to kill, like just about every other sniper in every video game and one kill to the head. So I don't think it makes sense to break from this formula. The great PvP arena, Halo has survived with this, so it stands to reason that it doesn't make sense to change it. Secondly, you already are at a disadvantage using Snipers if you miss that first shot. At that point, you're likely to be already being barraged by Bullets, making your scope flinch and hard to land any shot. Granted, if you do land that first shot on the body, then a follow up shot is likely in order. The smart thing the victimized guardian can do is [i]find cover[/i]. Not to mention, a nerf like this would make No Land Beyond unreasonably difficult to use unless you are the top 1%. While I don't think Snipers need nerfs, I'm willing to compromise. If you want to make Snipers more skill based weapons without suggesting mad ideas like this, then let's start with the aim assist values. Turn them down. Something you can do to deter spammers is to increase the delay between sniper shots, to make it harder to double tap. But ultimately, the way to make body spammers pay for their bad aim is [i]to snipe them.[/i] Or even find cover. I see this as more of a personal problem than a topic of discussion.
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1 ReplyThe secondary weapons don't need tweaking, the ammo does. The over abundance of secondary ammo plagues destiny pvp. They need to remove it from spawn, have the boxes spawn a lot less often, and have it disappear with each death. The weapons could remain awesome and yet people would be forced to use their primaries MOST of the time.
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1 ReplyI think the giant red dot over their head is enough of a disadvantage for snipers that tells you take cover and kill them from a different angle
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6 RepliesIf you get two shot body shotted in crucible thats on you.
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Troll or just really really dumb? I seriously can't decide..
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How about this, we make a sniper just like the ones for COD that has decent rate of fire and it's a one shot to anywhere....no, then stop bi***ing about a two shot
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How about no. Final Round and Luck in the Chamber being nerfed is great. There needs to be no tweaks to snipers.
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7 RepliesEdited by bluejack31: 12/9/2015 5:04:54 AMNo just shut the -blam!- up already you monsters have already destroyed shotguns and fusion rifles for pve just shut the -blam!- up and go away already sniper rifles are the last good special we have in pve
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Ok I agree and disagree I think if snipers should be nerfed then this is what I would like but I don't believe snipers should be nerfed
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Another idea is add sound Radar, if someone shoots off a sniper, in most cases, it'll leave a general idea (make it a wide area vs a narrow area of effect) of where the shooter is, and give you a sense of where to take cover But I agree, this isn't a camping game More and more are switching to snipers and waiting...
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1 ReplyLiterally every other game is 1-2 shots to kill with a sniper shot to the body. The only thing that should be tweaked is the fact that all snipers are semi other than nlb. That's the ONLY thing. Damage is fine. "Spammy" two shots happen in any game and shouldn't be changed either. That's dumb. This is dumb. Headshots are all I aim for. There is no reason a sniper should 3 shot to the body
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Interesting idea. I'm not saying that I agree, but it is rather interesting.
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6 RepliesI just think the people like you who make this post just suck with snipers and like to complain just leave the game alone go play Halo
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4 RepliesThis is the stupidest suggestion I've ever read
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Good post. I agree
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1 ReplyPut your controller down take out destiny and pack your shit and go back to COD