Learn to grind some pvp to 'EARN' a gun. I know that word might scare you, [b]earn[/b], but you guys are way to childish. I don't understand how you guys can grind for some fragments, flakes, and special sword crystals which are just boring old repetitive grinds - but when presented with a challenge you guys whine and moan that the game isn't easy mode anymore. Pve takes no skill. If you don't mind shooting a predictable AI boss that goes through the same routine then that's on you. Just please, don't come complaining when you actually have to step out of the comfort zone to '[b][u]EARN[/u][/b]' a completely [b][u]OPTIONAL[/u][/b] piece of gear. When did gamers become so lazy that a single challenging quest made them so aggravated? I can't seriously believe any of you guys are real RPG fans. Guys who went to grind Chocobo races in FFX, or fought any of the weapons in any FF game. Hell you guys probably never unlocked Gill in SF3, got the gold medals in Doritos crash course, beat any old mortal kombat game. Bottomline is, when the hell did gamers get so entitled. This whole 'I paid for the game I choose how to get what I want' mentality is stupid. If you want your own game go make one. You guys are ruining games right along side Bungie's business practices. Edit: I really don't mind if I sound a little rude or annoying. If you aren't one of these pve guys then this post isn't for you. To all you other complainers. Learn to man up. It's a game. You really can't be bothered to challenge yourself in a game? Seriously? Edit 2: Yes. PvP guys moan as well. My point is everyone should stop whining. There is no pay to win. We are all on equal footing. So don't expect the same guns of you didn't put in the same work. Simple. Edit 3: This is still getting commented on for some reason so here. Stop making this pvp vs pve. PvP whines nerfs. Yea I get it. PvE whines too. Right now PvE is whining a lot more. So I made this thread. Just like I've made threads to tell PvP people to stop crying nerfs. I'm not trying to put PvP vs PvE. I'm trying to tell people to stop complaining about the exotic quests. If you want the same gun anyone else has do the same work. It goes for Chaperone, First curse, ToM, any exotic sword, ect. Don't expect all the gear if you refuse to play the whole game. Also please stop this childish as 'forced' thing. No one is forcing you to do anything. No one has forced me to do the raid so I haven't done it, but that doesn't mean I'm being forced into it for the gear. TL;DR : Don't expect all the gear if you refuse to play the full game. Don't expect the same gear someone else has without doing the same work.