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Edited by Ferus Lux: 9/22/2015 11:40:49 PM
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Hammer of Sol is too powerful in PvP

Bungie, what on Venus were you thinking allowing a Tanky Golden Gun that nets you more kills in the Crucible? I only play Skirmish and Elimination and when you hear the anvil from 40 meters away, It's GG. I know Supers are designed to give an overpowering feeling, but competitively, Hammer of Sol is very unfair against all other supers with the exception of Golden Gun which can end in post mortem for both sides. If you aren't running Blink, then GG which leads to my next point. Other Supers can be countered or avoided or atleast have draw backs. Nova Bomb exposes the user and is single use. It can also be avoided by acknowledging that the opponent is a Voidwalker and keeping distance. Fist of Havoc is single use, requires the user to get in close and can be avoided and punished by jumping backwards with double jump, lift, or blink. Arc Blade can be sniped or team ganked and has squishy meh durability. Sunsingers are easy to run from even with low agility. Ward of Dawn? lol. Golden Gun is super easy to avoid. If you hear someone throw it up, run or wait around a corner with a Fusion Rifle or Shotgun. Hammer of pine Sol would have followed suit if it weren't for the fact that the hammers have ridiculous splash AoE. Kicking your chances of getting around a corner in the dirt. Why should a ranged class get insane durability as well? Not even Arc Blade or Storm Trance get that much armor and they are the supers that HAVE to fight up close. Shouldn't a class with already advantageous ranged attacks have low armor? If not, then Hammer of Sol atleast be on par with Arcblade in durability. Here's my first run-in with a Sunbreaker Titan :( One time in the crucible, I was playing my Titan void bro. Every thing was holly jolly until I hear an anvil ding. "Is that?..A Golden Gun toting Titan? The knucklehead doesn't even know he can like, totally burst my bubble with two shots...This poor fool will have to step into my ward of awesomness...*Pumps shotgun* and feel the pain." So as the guy approached my ward, he stopped for about a split second and stared. A single drop of sweat rolled down the side of my face as the foes fiery aura danced around." He's a Titan...but he's wielding Solar light...Wait that isn't the Golden Gun...It's a hammer. Is this some kind of joke? "Sunsinger-Gunslinger wannabe!" I scoffed. When he entered, I welcomed his face with a cold void fist and followed up with a blast from my Hakke shotgun. No dice. *Ding* Suddenly I was dizzy and the smell of my new Murvaux being melted filled my not-so-awesome ward. "Arrgh no way!..He's even more durable than a Sunsinger. Unless...Wtf...No...NO! Could he be a Sunbreaker?!" Suddenly, my thoughts were no longer thoughts. The fiery Titan nods his head and winds his hammer back and SPLAAT! Guardian down. Edit: Oh actually they can tank a Golden Gun shot too. So we get a subclass that has battlefield/zoning control through ground hazards and massive damage dmg. reduction while essentially throwing over 5 nova bombs. First nerf of the year is clear.

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  • I would say no. Sunsinger Warlocks can tank a Golden Gun shot with Radiant Skin. And besides, the point of a Titan is to be a walking wrecking ball. Also, Hammer of Sol can't travel nearly as fast nor as far as what a Golden Gun shot is capable of. People make it seem as though it's just a matter of throwing, meanwhile in actuality it's not that simple, you do have to think about it a little and make sure you aim correctly otherwise missing is all but inevitable. I avoided being killed in Crucible by a person running a Sunbreaker by dodging all his hammers. He eventually ran out and I killed him with mine instead. That isn't the last time it happened either. I wish people would just stop complaining about supers being OP in Crucible, where they ALL one-shot opponents. The only super I thought was OP was the Bladedancer, but not anymore.

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  • If you're in ones face with a shotgun and you also have a buddy, at least one of you will be fine, without a buddy? No supers are easily beaten by a single person.

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  • Your kd explains your feelings Titans are the slowest of all classes They should be the tankiest Comparing them to another class like hunters is idiotic

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  • Didn't read but bump Op as hell

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  • Sunbreakers can be countered easily Get up close around a corner, they won't expect it Get some map knowledge and stop being an idiot

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  • If you are seriously complaining about a super Maybe you just shouldn't play crucible, you can literally complain about any other super like for example, the night stalker bow, it kills any one shot by it and any one within range is slowed down crazily and also gets crit shoted from the body, oh and don't forget most hunters can shoot it three times, so stop complaining because all the supers are op in there own way but are very balanced.

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    • How would you feel if this was the change. When cauterize is equipped the damage reduction is reduced to that of a blade dancer and storm caller. The Titan needs to choose between the armor of a radiant skin warlock to tank golden gun and LDR archetype snipers or the ability regenerate health on kills. A little mire detail if your interested. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/157457291/0/0/1 [spoiler]yes I am posting this everywhere [/spoiler]

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      • +100 tears Mm the salt

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        • The nightstalkers bow knocks them out of the super even without a direct hit

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        • Edited by Bound_not_Broken: 9/29/2015 2:40:04 AM
          Killed one with a reg rocket. Also its not that hard to just stay away the sound of the super activating is incredibly loud

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        • NERF BUNGIE

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        • Same thing what you probably said to people who complained about shotguns.. Just simply stay away.. It's about damn time that a Titian is a bad ass in pvp.. Lol

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        • need a Kleenex?

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        • Just run away. SIMPLE

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          • It is OP anyone who says otherwise must have a concussion. It doesn't need much of a rework maybe a second less and 1.75x def buff instead of the ridiculous 2.5x it is.

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          • All I can say is stop moaning for everything to get nerfed it's not even that bad I'm yet to use my titan in pvp since the update and I've been killed by it twice? As soon as you hear the noise look at your radar and run the other way and get space on them and snipe them job done no need for a nerf no need to hear people moan every 2 seconds

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            • When you hear a Hammer just run for it noob

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            • Edited by roman_emp85: 9/23/2015 8:37:47 PM
              WARLOCKS Sunsinger. Scorch Melee. Self-Res. With a double grenade, maxed grenade recharge, and the Sunbreakers you can literally scorch the entire map with grenade with one super. Also, when your super is active, you can one hit melee kill anyone stupid enough to get close to you. Nova Bomb. With the Ram, Warlocks had the highest defense in the game. They where tanky as hell. With Obsidian Mind, Warlocks can spam their Nova Bomb more frequently than they care to admit, making them doomsday harbingers. I haven't analyzed their new Subclass yet. Now the crybabies. HUNTERS Golden Gun. Can penetrate through targets killing 2-3-4 targets at once. With the right helm, they gain an additional bullet. They also get one hit-head kills with knives that automatically refill their melee. Meaning infinite amount of knives in the hands of skilled players. Blade Dancer. Holy shit! The very definition of op. I can't remember on how many kill streak I went on. After every kill my life just regened and I was happy. I can shoot a blast of arc energy at enemies and watch them evaporate into thin air. This was my go to class for Iron Banner, to secure wins. This is still my go to subclass for anything competitive. Nightstalker. You can tether you enemies into one spot, poison them or have them explode when you kill them to damage those around them. Throw a grenade in the mix and you can poison them at the same time. Shit, every kill evens regen you life. More interesting. Hunters can mark other players in pvp to keep track of them. Op! If you mark them right, you can place a huge -blam!-ing marker that says, "here's my head. Shoot me now." I leveled up my Titan first because they are essential for pve, and my group is accustomed to having me run Titan because "I'm the best support they have seen." Titans were reduced to creating safe-zone because in higher end pve Titans where limited to the defender subclass because using the first of havoc was a guaranteed dead - an issue Hunters and Warlocks never had to deal with. They can finally attack from a distance. But for pvp, I will always be a Hunter. Love the Hunter. Always the Hunter. May the Traveler bless the Hunters.

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              • Edited by Jihan: 9/28/2015 2:49:01 PM
                Bro, you are right. But dont expect this forum to agree. ITS filled with scrubs and noobs who Will never acknowledge when something is op. It Will get nerfed, there is no way bungie isnt seeing how the ulti is op as hell in pvp. Aoe dmg like a nova bomb Multiple shots like a golden gun + 1 Armor like a sunsinger Heal like a bladedancer Range like a shadowshot Ridiculous

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                • You are right and bungie knows, luke smith alresdy said in a podcast that they were testing the sunbreakers health again

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                • Wah Wah Wah, I'm a little cry baby. That's my impression of you. Like it?

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                  • Tl;dr; waaaaah waaaaaah I got killed my a super! Bungee please nerf!

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                    • How many times do you get a super a match I say twice Let's see the other supers we complained for being able to wipe a team Bladedancer Golden Gun Nova Bomb Grenade Spam Striker Defender w/ weapons or blessing Supers are supposed to wipe entire teams. If you don't like 1 super because it can kill you, PvP is not your thing.

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                      • You just got hit by a flaming flamming hammer you deserve to be engulfed in flames to your ultimate demise guardian. Welcome to the real world.

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                        • They all have the same buff in armor and travelers sake I've tried this with arc blade and also took my shot gun.

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                          • Bump to nerf this insanely op super

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