The point of this post is that if you aren't using these weapons right now for competitive(tryhard) play you are at a disadvantage regardless of how good you are with a weapon these weapons statistically speaking are able to change the tides of battle, why would you gimp yourself by using something else? Also this was satire but the tag doesn't work...
its true everyone knows its true and it'll still be true when the weapon patch hits its not going to fix everything so much for the weapon variety
no gun you list will beat the damage per round on thorn or TLW.
Atimise Flare's been really cool about this find his comment and bump it they have some incredible insight(I mean its things that should be common sense but I've seen and done (quite frequently to my detriment) many of the things they talk about like using weapons outside their optimal range (like rushing with red death when I should be using a shotty or trying to snipe with hand cannons)
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Went 30 and 9 with red death
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Red death is better
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Every exotic multiple times
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My NLB has faster TTK than TLW.
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4 RepliesEdited by Matt Boy52: 8/11/2015 9:15:02 AMFatebringer VoC Fang of Ir Yut Word of Crota The Scholar Jewel of Osiris MIDA Red Death Bad Juju The Messenger Hopscotch Pilgrim Spare Change.25 Hawkmoon SUROS Regime (it still is good) Red Hand IX (with good roll) The Fulcrum (with good roll) Ill Will (with good roll) No Land Beyond ([b][i]if[/i][/b] you know how to use it right) Hard Light (again, if used right) The Devil You Know Shadow Price, the Summoner and the Vanquisher (can still work now and will be good in pvp after the patch) Any other decent scout rifle or hand cannon. Let me know if I missed any. [spoiler]I'm speaking in both PvE [i]and[/i] PvP. [/spoiler]
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Edited by FlatbushFatih: 8/12/2015 3:35:03 AMTl;dr but.. -The messenger - red death - hawkmoon Edit: mida bc of other commenter Its not the gun that makes you good, it's the player. Unless you use something thats really bad nowadays, good players can ger fairly all games first place. I find myself not even trying sometimes and talking in the clan party, that when i look at the scorebord i can't believe i'n first place of atleast my team. I even use monte carlo in normal crucible and outgun thorn. Last word upclose is a tricky one though. Can't wait for the balance to start the crucible fresh again. It's not the guns being op that makes it a bad experience, it's the player base. The overusage and no variety whatso ever
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6 RepliesMida multi tool and no land beyond can counter thorn and Tlw do to their horrible range. You just suck. [spoiler]quit bitchin[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesNo Land Beyond. 1 shot all the time
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How about red death or messenger or hopscotch pilgrim or hawkmoon or mida and the red hand 9 with good roll or a fulcrum with a good roll. There is a lot of things you could use and do just fine with
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Damage per round in primaries is kind of a HC thing. With the patch, most exotic primaries will become viable options. Several others are already viable options.
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1 ReplyEdited by Zzamumo: 8/11/2015 5:06:51 PMDo you even MIDA bruh?
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Mida multi tool yo
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I love my timur's lash with rangefinder and send it. Goes great with throwing knives
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But...you're so wrong...
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How dare you disrespect the great no land beyond? That thing is a legend that most people could only dream about using
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Ttk exotic handcannon leaked.
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Nothing more satisfying then owning Thorn/TLW's with HM. Don't have Thorn (wouldn't use it) and won't use TLW on principle.
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No Land Beyond is way better than Thorn and TLW. If you can get the headshot quickly then you can easily beat them them. Anyway, loads of players who use those guns are terrible so they're not that much of a threat with them.
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Red death
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[quote]its true everyone knows its true and it'll still be true when the weapon patch hits its not going to fix everything so much for the weapon variety no gun you list will beat the damage per round on thorn or TLW. Atimise Flare's been really cool about this find his comment and bump it they have some incredible insight(I mean its things that should be common sense but I've seen and done (quite frequently to my detriment) many of the things they talk about like using weapons outside their optimal range (like rushing with red death when I should be using a shotty or trying to snipe with hand cannons)[/quote] Lol I remember when I was on my lvl 5 titan: [spoiler]I beat a thorn with a white hand cannon[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyThe Jewel of Osiris. I beat Thorn and TLW all the time.
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19 RepliesErm I have out gunned many thorns with baby hawkmoon (fulcrum with final round and luck in the chamber) the reason being I play xbox. But why would you use thorn or last word anyway. If you do you sir, are the one that sucks ass because you are abusing broken weapons
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The timepiece bruh Shit wrecks And moms spaghetti
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Hopscotch pilgrim. End of story. Only way you win is if you close the gap quicker than me busting off 2 bursts
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Edited by Kill Shot641: 8/11/2015 6:26:00 PMIt is true that these two weapons are OP, but I went flawless three times yesterday using NLB just having fun. Why I'm saying this is because good players don't need those guns to win matches. I refuse to use either of those guns ever, ever since the updates that made them OP. I haven't used thorn since around October, and I only used last word for a week or so when Xur first sold it. Either way, if I'm not using NLB, I go tryhard with red death. :P
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Lol you obviously don't have the suros regime