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7/30/2015 6:16:33 PM
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Why Do People Use Matador And Party Crasher+1?

I never understand why so many people use the Matador 64 or the Party Crasher +1. If I compare them both to a found verdict, they have less of every stat except stability. Why do so many use them both?
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  • Shot package ,rangefinder. Ability to reroll is nice. Easy to get if all you play is crucible.

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  • Edited by ccSPiTFiRΞ: 8/1/2015 1:02:15 PM
    I use: Found Verdict on my Warlock Matador 64 on my Titan Party Crasher +1 on my Hunter [spoiler]Because I like variety[/spoiler]

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  • Customizable perks

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  • Because they don't have felwinters

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  • Maybe people haven't done the raid Maybe people have done the raid and it didn't drop for them The range perks and shot package make it one hit kill They don't have felwinters lie. They don't have invective They don't know about hard luck charm They didn't buy Secret Handshake from the vanguard vendor when it was available They like using the weapon that they chose and just want to play the way they want to

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  • My rolled crasher has alot more range than fv

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  • If you see any shotgun with worse stats then found verdict then they don't have the right perks on it. But that's what makes them better, rerolling these shotguns with the right perks makes them god tier.

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  • because they are overpowered.

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  • I used secret handshake in iron banner today. Did better than I did with judgement , matador, felwinters or party crasher.

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    • Don't have any other shotgun

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    • With the upcoming weapon tuning, I may just go back to using FV.

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    • Because if you roll it right it has a ton of range and you can shoot someone across the map

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    • Personally i don't understand most reasons given, only decent shotgun i have is old secret handshake, hammer, shot, grenadier.. (arc) have the 3 factions ones too but can't decide which is better, anyway the thing i don't understand is stability, would i be correct if i said recoil/accuracy will be the excact same whether you had 100% strenght stat or zero strenght stat?.. as someone posted below firing 2 shots off a Found and your looking up at sky etc, shouldn't stats help with this, bet it don't so it's hard to take some discussions too seriously (not these posts) when people talk about meta/stats and rolls. IF i'm wrong then pardon my dust (to borrow a term).

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    • Because people troll Meta perks. I personally prefer the overall balance verdict has created.

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    • Caus those stats lie! Especially the range!

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    • They have more impact

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    • Shot package/rangefinder. Rerollable etc. back before the og felwinter it was all about verdict and invective with the full auto and solid range. Now all that matters is the 10 meter one shot

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    • Rerollability and massive range add in shot package [spoiler]#rekt[/spoiler]

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    • Edited by Ghost77: 8/1/2015 11:51:43 AM
      I use it to kill other guardians in Destiny. And easier to get than found verdickt

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      Cause you can reroll

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    • Because Found Verdict can't take you out from fusion rifle range. These sniper shottys have broken PVP. It used to be that you could use a fusion rifle to counter a shotgun because the shotgun user had to get close and you could just nuke him before he got in range. Now with shot package and range finder you don't even get a chance to charge the fusion. This definitely needs a balance adjustment. At the very least it shouldn't be a one shot from such a long distance. People that say it's okay are the ones who use it as a crutch because they lack skill. I'm not that great at PVP, but even I can see this is broken along with the ridiculous TTK of Thorn.

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    • Invective is bad ass. I started using it for shits and giggles, and it's awesome because of the firerate and last round.

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    • No shotpackage.

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    • Personally, I like my Judgement VI with shot package, smallbore, and luck in the chamber. It wrecks in PvP, and it's not terrible in PvE.

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      • Because of shot package and rangefinder. Duh

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      • For me there balanced guns that work in pvp and pve. Plus their easy guns to get

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