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11/18/2019 11:12:36 PM
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Elizabeth Warren pulls a bait & switch
Who didn't see that one coming??
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Elizabeth Warren announced Friday that she would expand public health insurance during her first 100 days in office, but wouldn’t push for passage of a “Medicare for All” program until the third year of her presidency
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What I see happening is she rolls out the 1st year plan giving time for Republicans to argue it was overreaching and blah blah blah. Then it will become such an issue she will decide to wait for reelection to push for it, which even if she were to win still wouldn't happen.
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2 RepliesThis is why I never trusted her, she's flip-floppy. She's never been 100% on pretty much any of the things she's promised. I [b][i][u]STRONGLY[/u][/i][/b] believe that our next president must be honest. We've had [b][i]sooo[/i][/b] many liers before so why not, just for once, have an honest one. See what happens. 🙄
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18 RepliesAs such, it will become yet another tool to get elected, like gun control, abortion & all the others, yet nothing will be done & it will further divide the people until America self destructs & we are over run by the Mole People.
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5 RepliesHow do y’all think it would effect the QUALITY of our health care if we went to a single-payor system?
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Props to Bernie for now being 2 for 2 on having Warren take the fall for the trickier parts of his own bill. Like, he also has no idea how to raise $30 trillion, and his 4-year transition is pretty similar to this one, but it's Warren's own fault she got baited into having to answer for all of it. Either way, the whole thing about Republicans making a fuss is kind of beside the point, as they obviously will oppose anyone's plan. Warren's transitional one here is designed to be easiest to pass by only requiring 51 instead of 60 votes, and moderating a little to get even the most Conservative Democrats on board. But that's also beside the point because even this "moderate", easy-to-pass plan is *way* more extreme than anything those Conservative Dems would vote for anyway. But that's also beside the point because even if you could convince them to vote for it, Democrats aren't going to have a Senate majority in 2020 and literally no Democratic president will get any of their legislation passed. [b]tl;dr nothing matters lmao[/b]
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50 RepliesEdited by TheArtist: 11/19/2019 1:30:09 PMMedicare for All was never going to happen. I know its a Progressive fever-dream...but the fact of the matter is that its simply not DOABLE right now politically. 1. Working people are too scared and divided amongst themselves to support it. They're too busy trying to hold other groups down, to see that this is in their own best interests. IOW, too pre-occupied with looking to kick down, to come together and punch up. 2. She would have been taking on THE most powerful set of special (corporate) interests in America. Who---combined---wield economic power equal to 1/6 of our GDP. Those special interests will mobilize and manipulate that fear and resentment to their advantage to defend that status quo. "Obamacare" passed (barely) because the President was politically saavy enough to DIVIDE these groups from one another, so that he could isolate the Insurance industry...and take them on seperately. AND HE STILL NEARLY LOST. He convinced allthe other groups to sit out the fight....and the Insurance Industry ALONE was nearly powerful enough to beat him. But WAS powerful enough to take away his power in Congress in 2010.. Pushing for a single-payor system? You'd be taking on ALL of them at the same time. You'd basically be legislating the health insurance industry out of existence.....and you'd be cutting deeply into the profits of all the OTHER interests. So instead of sitting things out like they did during the fight over the affordable care act, they'd all join in and dump enough money on Congress to kill whatever initiative she came up with in the crib. Elizabeth Warren----minus Medicare for All----has the message that can not only beat Trump...but could help the Democratic party reclaim its soul and FRACTURE the Reagan coalition. Perhaps for good. She has a true economic populist message that can come here into the Rust Belt and undermine Trumps support here. Support that gave him the White House because Secretary Clinton took that support for granted....and was too busy trying to flip Red States to actually bother to show up here to campaign. So Trump message of protectionism largely ran unopposed. NOW is not the time to risk losing the White House at a critical time in our history.....going after a White Whal that her own party would end up sabotaging.
