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9/23/2016 5:54:21 AM
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Thorn needs most of its strengths returned

DISCLAIMER: This is my opinion and may conflict with popular belief. I am also writing this after testing thorn in the current meta for 10 consecutive matches, therefore I would be more experienced with the weapon than most guardians today. Bungie, you have nerfed yet another beast into the ground to where it can't be used. With the changes to hand cannons, you must pace each shot or face your shots going everywhere except where you point them. this is an absolutely ridiculous requirement for a primary weapon as there is no other weapon type in the game with this requirement. Scout rifles do not punish you for firing followup shots, Pulse rifles do not punish you for firing followup shots, Auto rifles do not punish you for firing followup shots, so why do almost all hand cannons do this? Thorn's signature exotic perk, and most controversial feature, is mark of the devourer perk (sorry if I butchered the spelling). This once deadly perk is now almost useless in the current meta. The 2 damage per tic for 3 seconds is too weak for an exotic. In my ten matches, I only saw one person burn, at least 5 blade dancers heal even though they were burning, and at least half of my close range shots miss even though my sights were 100% on them. If my iron sights say I'm going to hit them, then my expectation is i will hit them, but with hand cannons nowadays that isn't possible. Thorn was designed for forcing your opponent to disengage from combat and with the short,weak burn and the terrible accuracy this is not possible. Thorn on paper and in the past were something to be feared, but with the poor per-shot accuracy, low burn damage this gun is nothing but a joke. in fact Thorn has the longest time to kill in the game right now. I'd say just restore the burn's strengh to seven so Thorn would do 7 damage for 3 seconds on hit, but that might make the gun too strong. Anyone have any suggestions on how to bring Thorn in line with the other hand cannons?

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  • Edited by TYBERIUS777: 9/26/2016 6:03:45 PM
    Hi. I'm the logical and analytical guy on these forums. Let me explain to you why Thorn was still extremely broken during the time before the April Update. I have made this argument many times before but you people still can't seem to comprehend it. Let me try again. Thorn is a mid-high rate of fire hand cannon. Before the April Update Thorn was capable of a 3 tap to the body with the burn damage. The First Curse is a high impact low rate of fire hand cannon. Its only capable of a 4 shot body kill. See a problem here? Thorn can fire faster than the TFC and can kill in one less body shot. That means it is blatantly over powered. Even the oh so mighty Eyasluna and Palindrome are not capable of such feats and Thorn does less crit damage than them. This was wrong. Bungie recognized this. Thorn is now where it belongs. A decent hand cannon with a small amount of burn damage that doesn't last too long. That's exotic for you kids. Anyone asking for Thorn back is basically a skilless noob who needs a crutch to compete with everyone else. Stop making these posts. There's a reason people down vote them.

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    • So you want a repeat of the HoW meta... Gotcha.

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      • No thanks

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        • You will have to wait for the hand cannon meta to roll around again. We have entered what looks like an AR meta again and if history serves, the hand meta is next in line. Just park it in your vault. it's time will come again soon enough.

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          • Why did Bungie bring Thorn back if it is complete garbage? It is useless they just wasted a lot of time, and so are the people getting it

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            • I like that this post has ZERO cumulative likes. It really shows how bitter and salty so many of the PvP tryhards are in regards to Thorn. It's still the big bad boogeyman to them. +1

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              • Nothing wrong with having an opinion that opposes popular belief. Though your opinion in and of itself is wrong.

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                • Yes. Bring it back to pre April status. It was fine then. If they keep the range/ bloom the way It is not they need to bring the DoT to at least 7. If they keep the DoT completely worthless like it is now they need to make it the second longest range hand cannon in the game before you select send it. I am pretty good with hand cannons even in the terrible state they are in fight now but Thorn is unusable.

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                  • Make it 4 wo/ silimar and 2 w/ silimar

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                    • I know i got the year 3 Thorn today and the Dot is just... useless now dot needs to be atleast 3 or 4 and the tick atleast 4 or 5

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                      • If they give it a huge PvE buff I'll return to the game. They will never buff it on PvP. Sorry to burst your bubble. They are completely scared of that weapon.

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