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Edited by Brutal NBK: 6/28/2016 6:47:41 PM
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To those of you complaining about Shoulder charge:

For all the crybabies that will say I'm trying to defend my supposed "crutch"...Let me start by saying I main a Striker Titan and I run Juggernaut, not Shoulder charge.... You can check my xbox dvr history (GT: Brutal NBK) and see that I do not Shoulder charge. "Why don't you run Shoulder charge!? It's super OP!" You might say. Well, I don't run it because SC is not OP and I'll tell you why. In order for a SC titan to be successful they need great situational awareness and game sense. When they are sprinting they cannot turn tightly (assuming they aren't running the mk.44s) they cannot shoot and their visibility is partially impaired by the SC animation, plus they have a finite window of time to execute the SC. A SC titan will have a very hard time surviving a charge if he makes any of the following mistakes: he charges a sniper in the open charges two or more players charges anyone with good situational awareness He times his sprint poorly and runs out of SC before he can use it or tries to use it too early and it is not ready. If you don't understand why these situations are hard or don't believe me, hop on your titan, turn on SC and try it out... Unless you can't because you only have your Bladedancer leveled up, in that case, take your game disk out of the xbox and throw it out the nearest window, then delete your bungie.net account. Good SC titans are, in my opinion some of the more skilled players in the game. It is much easier to sit behind a headglitch and snipe unsuspecting players than it is to flank an enemy team and get even one SC without immediately dying. Again, if you don't agree with me on that, hop on your titan and try it. If you get killed by Shoulder charges enough that you feel the need to complain on the forum it is because you are a bad player with poor situational awareness and poor game sense. "So, If I don't run SC what do I run?" you ask. I run Juggernaut. I run it because if anything in that perk tree is overpowered it is Juggernaut. I get hatemail almost daily for running Jugg/uni remote, Because I can do something that no other subclass in the game can do, I can charge people in the open and tank sniper headshots. In my mind Jugg/uni remote is like SC with a giant shield in front of you. You still get one shot kills from a good distance and you don't have to worry about those pesky last words killing you while you try to close the gap. Please stop hopping on nerf bandwagons because you cannot adapt to situations quickly enough in game. Instead, maybe practice getting better at the game.

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  • The Juggernaut shield is way more annoying/cheap.

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  • I used striker for an entire day playing iron banner. Easiest shit ever just shotgun with it use shoulder charge for close situations and get that transfusion to proc. Strikers are not "hard to use" when they have the best grenade in the game and the best melee.

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    • To all those camping Snipers " Stay out of Shoulder Charge Lanes!"

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    • Its funny, before this IB, I wanted it nerfed. I didn't get killed by one single shoulder charge on all 3 of my characters journey to rank 5. Not that the titans didnt try, I just countered every single one of them. As soon as you see a titan sprinting tward you just walk backwards or step to the right or left. Then a fusion rifle shot or lord of wolves puts them in the ground. It was quite hillarious. The titan sprinting tward you, he thinks he has his easy kill lined up, then blam. He stops inches short right in front of me. Its my new favorite thing now is making a titan miss and then wasting him. I laughed every time. Its kind of obvious what they are trying to do when they are running right at you. So easy to counter when you know what to do.

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    • I killed so many Shoulder Charging Titans this IB. No idea what the hell people are crying about.

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    • Well said. Very well said. Logic falls on the deaf ears of the nerf army, though. Let's hope they don't ruin the perk when it is inevitably changed.

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    • What if everything you ever wanted... WAS TO KICK SHIT IN THE FACE!? FOREVER! THEN YOU NEED PEREGRINE GREAVES!!! PUT THESE SWEET-ASS LEGS ON YOUR TITAN AND YOU WILL F***ING DECIMATE THINGS WITH YOUR POWERFUL KNEES. THEY ARE GEMS. YOU WILL LOOKGLAMOROUS LIKE A STYLISH LADYWHILE YOU KNEE SOMEONE IN THE THROAT SO HARD THEIR TEETH GO FLYING OUT OF THEIR ASSHOLE! YOUR LEGS ARE BEDAZZLED! BEDAZZLED WITH THE STRENGTH OF 1,000 KODIAK BEARS IF KODIAK BEARS GAVE ZERO F***S ABOUT GRAVITY AND EVOLVED TO DO SWEET JUMPKICKS! YOU WILL SET YOUR CHILD ON YOUR KNEE TO GIVE HIM SOUND FATHERLY ADVICE AND THAT CHILD WILL F***ING EXPLODE BECAUSE YOUR KNEES ARE INSTANT DEATH! YOUR SON WILL DIE!YOUR WIFE WILL DIVORCE YOU! YOU WILL DIE ALONE ATOP THE MOUNTAIN OF CORPSES YOU'VE LEFT IN YOUR WAKE AS YOUR LIFE DISSOLVES INTO A NIGHTMARISH HELLSCAPE OF VIOLENCE AND DEPRAVITY! YOU WILL TAKE PEREGRINE GREAVES INTO THE CRUCIBLE AND YOU WILLMASSACRE PEOPLE! YOU WILL F*** THEM UP! YOU WILL KNEE BLADEDANCERS!DENIED! GET THAT BUTTERKNIFE THE F*** OUT OF HERE! YOU WILL KNEE RADIANT WARLOCKSAND CAUSE THEM TO WEEP RADIANT TEARS! YOU WILL KNEE GOLDEN GUNSLINGERS...CAREFULLY.... YOU WILL KNEE OTHER TITANS IN THEIR BUBBLES, DIVING INTO THEIR NEON DISCO DANCE PARTIES BLIND AS SHITAND MURDERING THEM WITH YOURENERGY LEGS! IT IS YOUR BUBBLE NOW SO FU*** THAT GU---wait, shit...THE BUBBLE IS GONE BECAUSE OF YOU GODDAMMIT WHY THE F*** DID YOU DO THAT!? YOU WILL RUIN YOUR K/D LIKE I HAVE BECAUSE YOU ARE ADDICTED TO THE SWEET, SWEET SOUND OF INSTANT AIRBORNE DEATH! YOU WILL CATCH SO MANY SHOTGUN BLASTS TO THE FACEAND IT WILL BE WORTH IT WHEN YOUKNOCK A BLADEDANCER THE F*** OUTBEFORE HE CAN CHOP UP YOUR TEAM!EVERY PAINFUL DEATH WILL BE VALIDATED AS YOUR LEG COLLIDES WITH A FIERY WARLOCK'S FAGGY GOATHAT SO HARD THAT HE'S RENDERED BRAIN-DAMAGED AND HIS FAMILYFIGHTS WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS TOTAKE HIM OFF OF LIFE-SUPPORT! HE WILL LIVE OFF OF TUBES! BECAUSE OFTEXAAAAAAS! PEREGRINE GREEAAAAAAAAAAVES!!!

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      • [quote] A SC titan will have a very hard time surviving a charge if he makes any of the following mistakes: he charges a sniper in the open charges two or more players charges anyone with good situational awareness He times his sprint poorly and runs out of SC before he can use it or tries to use it too early and it is not ready. If you don't understand why these situations are hard or don't believe me, hop on your titan, turn on SC and try it out... Unless you can't because you only have your Bladedancer leveled up, in that case, take your game disk out of the xbox and throw it out the nearest window, then delete your bungie.net account. Good SC titans are, in my opinion some of the more skilled players in the game. It is much easier to sit behind a headglitch and snipe unsuspecting players than it is to flank an enemy team and get even one SC without immediately dying. Again, if you don't agree with me on that, hop on your titan and try it. If you get killed by Shoulder charges enough that you feel the need to complain on the forum it is because you are a bad player with poor situational awareness and poor game sense. [/quote] This here, very well put man!

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      • Shoulder charge doesn't need to be nerfed...In my opinion this is what needs nerfs and buffs What needs to be nerfed or changed: Transcendence on storm caller Defender overshield on shotgun kill (it has about 100hp way worse then flame shield ever was) Sniper body shots SBMM Ghost bullets and melee registration What needs to be buffed: Firebolt hit range (they r terrible now and no I'm not asking for the old fire bolt burn thing that was broken) Sunsinger melee options Defender bubble Shotguns....just a tad What needs to be removed: Hidden hand on snipers Guerilla fighter Just my opinion...plz don't kill Btw I'm a warlock main who runs mida/sniper or double sniper atm

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        • SC doesn't work that well in iron banner Titans missed the mark 9/10. It was kinda sad seeing all the sweaty Titans trying so hard.

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        • Meh, nerf fusion rifles

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        • I'm not going to blame skill when a titan 180s their missed shoulder charge into my face.

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          • Fair play to you these retards crying for a shoulder charge nerf are just looking for attention

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          • Lol. It breaks FPS 101 mechanics.

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            • Clapping I agree 100%.I run titan main with sc it took me weeks to master sc. I use it more to hit corners but if I see 3 people I'm the same spot easy sc fist double all day

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            • Shoulder charge is fun but it's not even close to overpowered. However, juggernaut and shotgun maybe the most OP thing In The crucible right now Juggernaut is not even close to being fair

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            • I think that your description of using shoulder charge is the best I've read. Sure anybody can throw on SC and a pair of m44k and run blindly around getting cheap kills, but overall you'll be dying more than you'll be killing. That shit gets boring after awhile. I use it, But I use it sparingly or I try to use it without being reckless. Shouldn't talk about juggernaut, that will be the next nerf cry!!

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            • Doesn't matter. In the end, if it annoys enough players, Bungie will nerf it. That seems to be their philosophy now. Data has little relevance anymore. It's all about what's used the most, and what Crucibabies cry about the most. Just gotta sit back and watch as Bungie and the players destroy this game, one nerf at a time.

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              • I'm not reading that shit. Someone want to paraphrase?

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                • #nerflightninggrenades

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                  • Personally i think SC should be countered by a well timed melee attack causing your melee to absorb half of the SC damage. Happens when i'm on my warlock

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                  • Watch them buff SC just to make all the nerf herders self implode and finally quit destiny AND the forums all together.

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                    • blah blah blah, get off you're high horse. Shoulder charge is broken, on the small maps (over half of them are small close quarters maps) it absolutely decimates and simply doesn't have a counter. On these maps it runs rampant, it is not countered with a shotgun, it is not countered by any primary or other ability.

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                      • Amen preach

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                      • I wonder if bungie is gathering Intel on shoulder charge, just throwing that out there.

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                        • Edited by TwerkManeuvers: 6/30/2016 11:18:20 PM
                          I stopped reading after you said SC striker Titan takes skill lmao not saying it's OP or anything but to say it takes skill is laughable dude

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