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You should tell all your friends this story. Riveting.

The worst move was making the first Crota chest a simple shard chest as having an exotic chest within solo reach gave people who don't have a group a sliver of hope of getting the better exotics. Other people getting decent stuff has no impact on me so why should I moan if they have a chance?

Only people who complain about cheeses being fixed are those who can't do it normal

To a lot of people. Look, I have 3 chars(Warlock, Hunter, Titan), I play this game heavily each week but it seems like most people against the fixes and whatnot that people want are just going on about cheese methods yet forgetting stuff we were PROMISED and SHOWN. Story. Yes, someone got fired and they had to rework it, fine. but to be out for however many months now and no patch in sight to give us something that we want? That's insane. Grimoire cards not inside the game. Look, making story can take some time. That's fine. Sure. But why not atleast have the Grimoire cards ingame? I find it annoying and because of that it makes me less likely to come to Bungie and read the cards. My computer set up isn't close to my Ps4 so aside from reading random posts on here I constantly forget the cards are even on this site. A person on Reddit has already shown how simple it would be to add the cards ingame., Aswell as making Ammo Synths usable using the Dpad when in the Ghost menu. Free roam. People seem to be forgetting that they said "IF YOU CAN SEE IT, YOU CAN GO TO IT". Not, "Oh, you walked off the set path? Have a death screen." This game is heavily limited in terms of exploration. And this is a personal thing with me but rewarding people in PVP who basically afk'd the entire match is bullcrap. okay, you want to reward people who didn't do so well so they can do better next time. That's fine but if I or anyone else go undefeated a whole match, get first and I try my hardest only to see the person with 0 kills and 40 deaths get a Ghorn or Ice breaker, or some other gun that's really good is bull. (And yes, I have seen both those weapons to go someone in last place) Again, that would be fine if first got something for being first but as it stands, you're more likely to get a better reward joining a match and putting the controller down for 10 minutes then trying your hardest. And if they want to patch cheese, that is again, fine but why is it okay to patch a cheese method but game breaking glitches are allowed to stay? Atheon teleporting someone with detain is fine, all of the crota glitches are fine but hey, they patched a cheese. THEY MUST CARE. And I'm sure there is more but I'm doing a Nightfall right now and can't thing of anything. Finally, I love this game. I could be something that could stand the test of time and make people consider a sub fee every month but as it stands we have a watered down game that is being sold to us in shot glass amounts. That is not acceptable.

This thread is bitch made...........

You again with rubbish opinions and three of the same character. We all know what kind of destiny player you are and I'll bet you won't be as skilled as anyone in this forum

Little crybaby can't beat the raid legit haha Not everyone deserves to beat the raid if they suck.

As for the cheesing, I just posted on my group -xbox 360- about wanting to do the deathsinger part but of course, no takers. So when you guys are out there saying, "I don't know why people cheese, it's so easy. It's not fair, do it legit." Here I am trying but I can't. THAT'S why bungie didn't need to waste their time on cheeseing and would have been better off making a match making system or working on the tons of other problems in the game. I would solo it... if I could.

Here is the perfect example of bungie shenanigans. Why does it take longer to collect Spin Metal or Spirit Bloom, than it does to dismantle a piece of equipment or pick up a patrol marker? Has anyone EVER been collecting a resources and said... "DAMN IT!!! I didn't want that relic iron... Ahhh damn it... Well, now I have it I guess... DAMN IT!" Nope, never happened, yet it takes longer to pick up. Why do you think that is? I'm not going to give you the answer but if you ponder it for a moment, my guess is, it will come to you. Tick Tock, tick, tock. Got it yet? I'll give you a few more moments..... tick, tock, tick tock <-----clue Time is the answer, more time wasted doing nonsense... So bungie can say people sign on everyday and play about 3 hours. Sounds impressive but it isn't. 30 min doing fun stuff, 2 and 1/2 wasting time. Tick tock, tick, tock.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!! COME BACK 1 YEAR!!! Lolmfao

You know the funny part is I cheesed it then stopped and started doing it legit and not only it more fun legit and more exciting its also faster. Don't even know why I cheesed it the first time. I can honestly say now that I'm glad they patched crota and as far as Ive noticed at least for me there haven't been any bugs in the Crota Raid.

Here's one for you, we'll release a major fix to the cheeses of the raid, but the bug on your black hammer? Oh well just disable hive disrupter

The VOG atheon glitchs are awful last night Oracles killing the team for no reason and the relic not actually shielding the team. the praetorian that regens health. If the glitch makes it easier hell yeah we better get on that. If it makes it harder or actually frustrating because you should have been fine. na we can leave that.

Who knew that bungie were soup natzi's(cant say it without sensor lol)all a long. Just steal their recipes after they give you a piece of furniture with all their secrets!

Someones havin a hard time with the raid. Cry baby

The Crota cheese wasn't a cheese, it was ~just~ above the line of cheesing into cheating, for the sole reason, that it involved ripping out your LAN cable, that one I advise to let go, its ok to break it a little guys just don't break it beyond repair lol

Why shouldn't they fix game breaking cheats. Crota was not cheesing it was straight up cheating. Every other cheese in the game is fine but d/c to beat crota can't be left in.