Light levels don't mean a thing when you can buy gear that puts you at 31. ***Please understand that there will be exceptions and this is just a general rule to gauge*** ***No where in this thread am I saying that 2000+ Grimoire = Pro player, i'm just saying that it's a way to gauge experience (good or bad)*** Countless times I've gone into a raid with a fireteam of lvl 31s only to leave halfway through because half the fireteam didn't know what they were doing. Check the person's Grimoire score, anyone above 2000+(or - a 100) Grimoire [b]Should[/b] have enough experience to be able to get through the raids. I've found that it works to make sure my fireteam members aren't Newbs and I'm sure many people know already. Just throwing it out there for those who dont. Edit: Everyone is under the impression that I just rage quit. That's not what happened, we just made a decision to end it there because we weren't getting anywhere. This was on a Monday before the reset and 3 of us were trying to do a quick run. I've helped many people with raids before and I don't mind doing it when there is time...that day there was no time to waste. Edit 2: I'm not saying that everyone above 2000+ Grimoire is a pro. I'm merely saying that it's a good indication of a persons experience. Just general things...what weapons are good against what enemies. Strength and weakness of most enemies. Where you need to stand to make sure we get all oracles...etc. These are simple things even bad (but experienced) players can get through no problem with a good fireteam. Edit 3: Retreiving dead ghosts nets you 300 Grimoire points. I notice a lot of people bringing up "you can get Grimoire by just taking the time to hunt dead ghosts"...No you cant. Most Grimoire points will come from killing a lot of the different types of mobs, finishing specific bounties and missions, going into new areas and ets...all meaning experience. Edit 4: Added - 100 Grimoire points for those who were crying about being around 1970 or 1940 etc...There are going to be exceptions obviously, but with the influx in Christmas newbs, this is just a general rules that I find works for me. Edit 5: Adding Judahwo's comment as it makes sense and everyone should read it. "Higher Grimoire score generally means more time spent playing the game. More game time means more experience. More experience translates into more skill. Are there exceptions to this rule? Sure. But it is a good general rule nevertheless." Give him a like if you agree. EDIT 6: I didn't think I'd need to edit this thread this many times just to get my point across. To those who understood without a headache, please pass the message onto those who have been nerfed with horrible comprehension. If you don't understand, read it again, maybe it'll make sense...maybe go through the comments or even take a look at what the grimoire cards are for the first time before commenting. Edit 7: Adding Dentez's Comment (Like his comment if you agree) "As someone who been playing since day one (and has 2755 grimoire score), Requiring 2000 as a minimum requirement is perfect (for Hard raid runs). By that time players have basically touched ground on almost everything, and all that needs to be addressed is strategies for finishing the raid." **What's with people getting so sensitive about being a newb and etc??...If you're a newb, you're a newb. Everyone starts out as a newb, it's not an insult, its a way of differentiating someone who's played the game vs someone who hasn't. Don't get all butt hurt and start crying out "Elitist" like that means something. Sensibots EVERYWHERE now-a-days. Edit: Changed "Noobs" to "newbs" because according to some, "newbs" is more friendly and "noob" is more of an insult