there seems to be a lot of people who still seem confused when it comes to quality of Sniper Rifles. for better clarification i am only going to consider guns that have (or CAN have) 331 attack, simply because 331>300 ;)
for the record - i have Ice Breaker, Patience and Time as well as Black Hammer (BH needs 2 more damage upgrades tho)
in order of quality:
1. Patience and Time
2. Black Hammer
3. Ice Breaker
4. ANY RANDOM Legendary based on the perks it's been rolled with
...sorry, but Legendary sniper rifles available at Vendors won't make the cut, the perks are not that great, however as long as you don't have ANY of the above 4, even one of these will do
now, you must think i have gone mad, but think about it for a while, what would you want from your sniper rifle? me, i want ACCURACY (well, possibly even range, but i never found that to be an issue with Sniper rifles in this game
IceBreaker - this thing kicks like a dying horse (or a Rodeo one), trying to land at least two consecutive headshots with this rifle is therefore rather difficult which has moved this to 3rd place (and im telling you that if it wasn't for the ammo regen this would hardly qualify for an Exotic)
Black Hammer - this one's got a lot less kick when fired, although the problem here is low mag size, 3 could possibly be enough, however there would have to be a lot more punch to beat our BEST sniper rifle in Destiny...
Patience & Time - next to no recoil, 6 rounds in a magazine, landing consecutive headshots alomst 100% of the time
Damage-wise these 3 are pretty close to one another, and i know that ammo regen on IB and 'back-to-mag' on BH are great, if,....IF...and thats the biggest problem - both these guns are GREAT, however rather situational
P&T on the other hand works ALL the time, EVERY time - i can guarantee you that by the time you get those 6 shots ON TARGET with the IB, i would have already fired my first mag, reloaded and most likely emptied the second one as well -> twice as many shots
Plus, it unique perk does not require any further conditions to be met (you can ADS anytime), and it looks best
EDIT_1: i am not saying other sniper rifles are bad, and i obviously haven't tested them all
EDIT_2: this post is mainly for all those recklessly chasing Ice Breaker while it is obviously nowhere near being The Sniper Rifle of Destiny ;) look at the comments below, no one seems to be arguing about me not placing IB on top ;)
EDIT_3: you have asked for it - below is the info from Destiny Gun Data, although most likely for 300 weapons, so scale
ICEBREAKER:
dmg/shot: 1,284
DPS: 9,630
ADJUSTED DPS: 1,148
Patience and Time:
dmg/shot: 1,033
DPS: 9,471
ADJUSTED DPS: 7,306
*ADJUSTED = Damage per second adjusted for reload time, and per this P&T does almost 7x more damage
EDIT_4: this post is PvE oriented
EDIT_5: i stand CORRECTED - my bad for missing out Efrideet's Spear, i would say its probably better than IB though, thus also better than BH as ES doesn't seem situational ;)
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Editado por DarKnightNoir: 1/12/2015 1:09:48 AMMeh. I've got a solar LDR with 6-8 per clip (clown cartridge) maxed at 331. Kills shit. Perks are rodeo, field scout, and clown cartridge.
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P&T is a pile of crap, Spear does way more damage, has the same clip size and also firefly. I have void and arc versions with the same perks. I'm sorry but their is no way in hell you'll unload 2 clips of P&T before IB unloads 1.Unless you compared it to a noob using IB.
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To be honest I have a LDR5001 Arc sniper with firefly and field scout. It also spawns in with more ammo. So I'll take this with 6 round clip and a back up of 30 and equip my Gjallarhorn!!
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Your adjusted stats are situational. In most cases you're not sitting there firing shot after shot until you're out of ammo, there is time between your attacks. This time allows icebreaker to regen ammo where P&T will have to reload and will eventually run out of ammo. This allows icebreaker to put forth more damage than P&T.
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My "The Chosen" I received from faction ranking got a pretty good roll, awesome stability and fire rate, its gonna be a beast when I get the materials to upgrade the last 2 damage perks.
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A lot of effort went into this post for it just to be wrong
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2 RespuestasEfrideets spear. Same impact as Black Hammer Field scout - 6 in a clip, 24 total Ambush scope Arc damage Firefly Performance Bonus
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3 RespuestasObviously Retarded/ 10
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You just having -blam!-ing bad aim man icebreaker is god
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1 RespuestaEditado por DirtyBertieMKII: 1/11/2015 11:42:35 PMJust got a rare dlc sniper and the perk was that any ammo you shoot is picked up. Obviously its not great stats but thats pretty cool when you're picking things off and haven't got ammo synths. Not seen that on better rifles. Edit: I suppose regen ammo of better rifles is better!
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1 RespuestaI'm surprised no one has realized how useful the longbow sniper is yet, the thing is a demon in pve
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I'd rank Efrideet's Spear above Icebreaker. But I was blessed by RNGesus to reroll one with an ambush scope, performance bonus, field scout and mulligan, fantastic for PvE.
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You must've never played with the LDR 5001 from vanguard
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8 RespuestasThe Ice Breaker is still the best sniper. It does more damage than the Black Hammer, has regenerating ammo, and it does splash damage without even getting precision kills. Does it have ridiculous recoil? Yes, but that's not a problem if you can adapt to it.
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A positive for BH should be the fact it's a legendary. That's almost a third perk.
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Efrideet's Spear is very good imo.
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Efrideet's Spear is very good imo.
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3 RespuestasIcebreaker has predictable recoil i can land headshots with it as fast as the gun lets me fire.
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P&T for the win!
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Don't have any of those but... Ta da! I have NLB! :-D
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For PVE Ice breaker Black hammer (if you are horrible with snipers like my self patience gets this spot) P and t For PVp PandT Black hammer (cause of stability upgrade) Ice breaker (Most legendarys beat it hear though preadyths whould tie for p and t)
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PR > P&T
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Icebreaker has super predictable recoil. It's not that hard.
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2 RespuestasPatience and Time is just an exotic Preydeths Revenge...
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Ur damage per second is flawed... Ice breaker really isn't all that hard to aim for back to back head shots. Black hammer does slightly more damage than ice break but requires 3 precision shots so great for pve not so for pvp while p&t is basically best for pvp not pve
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7 RespuestasYOU SUCK AT THIS GAME IF YOU CHOOSE PATIENCE AND TIME OVER IB AND BLACK HAMMER