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Bungie Stand Up and Address the Things You Are Intentionally Ignoring...

Bungie needs to say more about things that matter

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I like many others lined up for the midnight launch of Destiny. I even ordered the PS4 bundle. I was so sure that this game was gonna be amazing. I was ready for the adventure and I was ready for the experience. What followed is a pitiful story of a trusting and hopeful consumer of a predatory and shallow developer. [b][u]Launch night comes.[/u][/b] I wait in line and I like everyone else in line furiously discuss all of the trailers and rumors that were presented. All of the promises that were made. The various rumored customization options. The various ships that were shown and the numerous others that haven't been shown. The exotics that we would find and the countless things we had no idea about yet. Everyone in the line buzzing with the excitement that always accompanies an anticipated AAA title launch. [quote][u][b]Make your guardian unique and build your legend[/b][/u][/quote] [b][u]The First Few Days[/u][/b] THIS GAME KICKS -blam!-ING ASS !!!!! LOOK AT ALL THE COOL SHIT YOU CAN GET!!!!! LOOK AT ALL THE COOL GUNS!!!!!! Like many other people I positively threw myself at the story mission with my 2 best friends. We play the shit out of it all. We do patrols and we complete bounties. Its everything that we thought it would be. We continue leveling and progressing. We explore and we start experimenting with which subclass we like more. It feels deep and it feels just like we thought it would. We hear rumors of people already near 24-26. We think those are just the no life having basement dwellers. I mean surely there is more to the game than that for us normal folks!!! :D [quote][b][u]The real game does not start until after level 20!!!!! - Bungie[/u][/b][/quote] [b][u]Level 20+[/u][/b] ALRIGHT LETS -blam!-ING DO THIS SHIT!!!!! Get those light levels! Get those guns! Do those patrols to get those upgrade materials! Yeah lets grind this shit out guys. We need to hit that end game. That is when the "real game" starts!!! [b][u]We hit "End Game"[/u][/b] That.......thats it? We just mindlessly throw ourselves at the same raid once a week? Or else we make 2 other characters to mindlessly throw at the same raid once a week? The raid isn't even intact. It glitches out constantly and c an be cheese'd with ease by everyone. That seems......shallow. I expected more...... [b][u]WAIT GUYS A NEW QUEEN EVENT IS COMING!!!! [/u][/b] But.........its just the same missions we have already done rehashed and the gear we get is not even good enough to replace raid gear......with no explanation of why we are doing it. [b][u]GUYS I KNOW THAT SUCKED AND IM SORRY BUT HOLD ON TO YOUR SACK CUZ HERE COMES THE NEW[/u] [i]"EXPANSION"[/i][/b] But it does not expand anything....... Its just missions in areas we already knew existed and had been to. It literally not expanding the world at all. [b][u]GUYS STFU AND LOOK AT THE SWEET NEW NPC WE GOT[/u] [/b] But.......but its just the SAME EXACT layout as the Queen Event. Some random female NPC sends us out to do tasks and missions that we have already done to get items of meaningless value with almost no explanation of who she is or why we are doing what she says.... [b][u]SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND LOOK AT THE SWEET NEW RAID BRUH[/u][/b] You mean the raid that has been shown to be solo'd on numerous occasions and was able to be cheese'd just like the first one? [b][u]Bungie you have -blam!-ed up this entire premise and thrown the story you had into the god damn dirt. You refuse to address the countless concerns brought up by your own community regarding the NUMEROUS glitches and bugs surrounding the raids. You refuse to address the lack of vault space. You refuse to address the fact that ships and shaders are "Rewards" yet give you nothing when you dismantle them if you already have them. You refuse to fix your RNG drop system that RUINS what little fun is to be had at this point. More than that you refuse to address ANY of the criticisms that are directed at you from VALID sources in the gaming community and criticisms presented to you by your own community. You insist on pressing forwards acting as if everything is just fine and that no one anywhere has any complaints. IGN - http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/08/29-of-destinys-biggest-design-flaws That came out 2 days ago but addresses issues that have been talked about since LAUNCH DAY. Yet we hear nothing from you. I stopped playing over a month ago, but I still check in hoping to see the changes that need to be made. How many others have simply walked away Bungie? Stand up for your game and address the things that need to be addressed or at some point you will wake up and 75% of your original community will be gone. Upvote this please if you feel that they are ignoring valid issues and concerns.[/u][/b]
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  • The more I play the better destiny gets. Maybe it is perfect. Like politics you can't please any of the people any of the time.

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  • I'm so sick of these complaint threads. What people say needs to be fixed really aren't broken. They're usually things that just don't fit the poster's peronal preferences or their preconceived notions of what they thought the game was going to be. Instead of enjoying the game for what it is, they just whine and complain about what it's not. If you don't like it then go play something else. Do you constantly spam the forums of other games you're disappointed in? It's such a futile exercise. Most of your criticism seems to be focused on the lack of content. Do you know how long it takes to generate new content for a game like Destiny? They can't just whip out a whole new world overnight. If you've already exhausted all of the content in Destiny, then move on. That's what normal people do.

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  • Bungie should start a "we are working on (insert item)" at least show us you hear us. There is a lot of valid issues. Do it I. The weekly update. And stop blowing smoke up our ass with random updates. Unless of course bungie is trying to ruin the game and cut ties with Activision...... Then carry on....

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  • Heres the thing thatll blow youre mind... they dont owe you shit ya ungrateful whiner

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    • I love Destiny right now because of the people I play with. I have fun in the raid and the nightfall and even the crucible, until I run into to many shotguns or fusion rifles then I'm usually done for a bit. But I do not see my enjoyment lasting 10 years. The game is not deep enough for that. I suspect I will lose interest in destiny right around the time everquest next is released. If that game is half of its pc predecessor it will blow destiny away.

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    • If I wrote a long list of things about a video game I didn't like I wouldn't play it anymore

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      • Editado por VVulfman: 1/13/2015 1:15:32 AM
        yup, there was hundreds if not thousands of threads and comments about the lack of substance in this game, back during it's release.. Most of the people who thought this game sucked, quit playing, the forums are pretty quiet nowadays and the ones who are left have just learned how to abuse the broken system, in order to stimulate their senses with the so called loot system.. Making multiple toons and chasing loot.. That is pretty much all we have to do in this game... Chase loot.. Their is not much of it either LOL.. You can do a search on this game is broken, and can probably necro Thousands of threads from a few months ago... That is why I just play this game casually, I have already lowered my standard with bungie.. IT will never be fixed.. I promise you guys... Maybe after you spend 300 dollars in DLC and memberships you might get the full game.... What I find funny is all the dlc's are completed already...

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      • You make several valid points that I and several others (that I have seen) echoed in similar threads. Communication has been a killer for Bungie. They seemed to get a touch better before Xmas, but then went on what felt like a month long hiatus so we'll have to see what the rest of the month is like. Side note, anyone else prefer the new guy who did the Update over DeeJ? Not DeeJ hate, just saying. Unfortunately, Bungie has done nothing to acknowledge or even counterpoint in any thread along this line. They don't respond to petitions, other than to say "petitions make me sad". They don't acknowledge ideas or polls. They rarely ever acknowledge complaints unless they are error code based. Unless of course, you accept that Bungie "is listening". I think we're just a wallet for them sometimes, and the longer this game goes on and the more of a history they build in regards to updates/patches/content releases the more and more everyone can see that. It makes me sad. I think there are employees at Bungie who genuinely give a damn, it's really too bad they must not be allowed to come on here and communicate with us. Even if all it was, was a "Interesting idea, we'll kick that around." or a "Stay tuned, something like this might very well be on the way." or a "There's a fix for this inbound, we're just having some trouble with the coding. Hang tight."

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      • lol

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        • while i do agree with a lot of the points you made, i have to admit i know nothing of computer or game programming and have no idea how difficult it is to fix something. Or even if one thing is harder to fix than another. So no i don't really feel ignored or angry about it

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          • Couldn't agree more.

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          • We should do an organized strike on a certain day and do a complete blackout making destiny an empty game for a day. Bungie will see our numbers and hopefully that will open their eyes to start fixing this broken game. Too many glitches that make this a broken game. All they care about is fixing exploits. Hit the upvote button if you are down to organize a blackout date.

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            • I agree.

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              • 100% agree. You can only pretend for so long. Trying to slowly release hollow content isnt going to fix anything.

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              • Agreed, am I the only one that just once wants them to say "we hear you, and we got you". But nope they fix the stuff that they screwed up and not what people actually want. Who would rather see all the above issues fixed before some stupid cheeses,I know I would.

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              • Sell your PS4 and buy a PC. If you want deep, deep games with massive social aspects, lore, loot, exploration you need a PC. Consoles just don't cut the mustard. With that said what you have described is the bare bones of MMORPG's. Some are better than others with literally hundreds of hours of content to get your teeth into, however when you strip it back to it's bare bones, grinding content to better your character over and over is MMORPG's in a nutshell.

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                • Agreed 100%

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                  • My honest review 5/10 Pros: -Fantastic gun-play and controls; some of the best I've seen in modern shooters to date. -Satisfactory enemy deaths; it's a lot of fun popping the heads or critical points of enemies and watching them explode/dissolve/collapse -Enjoyable raid content (when you have an experienced group of skilled players who do not cheese content) Neutral: -Crucible is ok, but unbalanced -Public Events can be fun, but tracking them is difficult -Strikes can be fun, but become very repetitive -Nightfall strikes are challenging, but often times loot drops are inconsequential and inferior to Weekly rewards Cons: -Lack of story; The existing story is a joke and is one of the worst slapdash efforts I've seen in a Triple A title in a very long time -Lack of content: There just isn't much to do except grind, grind, and more grind -Poor Loot system: with a game that so heavily insists upon progression being tied to gear, the RNG loot system is absolute trash -Poor Matchmaking: Lack of matchmaking for Nightfalls/Weekly strikes is a no-go. Very poor design choice -Lack of Ranked PVP; no ranked matchmaking means that you will very frequently be placed on unevenly skilled teams, with one team vastly better skilled and better equipped, resulting in one-sided matches -Poor Crucible Loot System; A loot system that more frequently rewards poor skill or lack of participation than players putting forth effort -Forced PVP for Weapon Bounties; Some players just aren't good at or do not enjoy PVP. Forcing PVP with no PVE alternative for Weapon Bounties is unacceptable -Lack of play testing; It's obvious that much of Destiny's end-game content was under-tested or not tested at all. Either their testers are all amateurs who could write a "My first Job" book, or they simply do not understand what the terms "Playtesting" or "Quality Assurance" mean. -Patching Priority; Bungie works quickly to address and patch anything that interferes with their idea of how players should play their game instead of addressing the actual issues of [i]why[/i] players cheese through content. -Slapdash DLC content; The Dark Below feels rushed and cobbled together, without much thought or logic for many of the design choices or currency additions. -Forced DLC Content; Forcing players to purchase DLC content in order to continue enjoying the original game is essentially no different than charging a subscription fee. Locking players out of content that they formerly had access to is simply underhanded and a disgusting business practice. -Lack of player character customization -Ship drops take the place of gear drops in raids; Ships are simply cosmetic and serve no purpose other than cosmetic. These should simply be given as side-rewards rather than replacing actual gear loot rolls. Again, RNG Loot System fails. -No incentive for playing well in Crucible; an awful player or AFK player is just as likely to receive a coveted Exotic drop as a skilled player, thus creating the idea that playing well is a waste of time. This breeds laziness and leeching, and is unacceptable -Tired and recycled content; Going through missions backwards and fighting a similar, yet differently colored Boss model is not "New, refreshing content". -Bullet sponge bosses; Absolutely ridiculous bosses with insane amounts of health, with almost no fight mechanics other than avoiding enemy fire and pouring clip after clip into a singular target. Extremely lazy and thoughtless design -Yet to be fixed bugs and glitches in current and old content; Vault of Glass is still riddled with major bugs that have yet to be addressed I think that's enough cons for now, but there are many more to be listed. There are ways of addressing and dealing with many of these, and many of them can be fixed with just a simple tweak. Others require entire overhauls of systems in place, and only serve to reinforce how baffling some of the design choices were when Bungie was developing Destiny. It's hard to say who is responsible for such lackluster and mediocre results, Activision or Bungie themselves, but either way, Destiny does not deserve a GOTY Award. Mediocrity should not be praised or rewarded, especially when that mediocrity persists and no effort is made to improve upon it. Personal note: I don't hate Destiny. Not at all, and I still find some aspects of the game enjoyable, mostly Crucible and raiding with friends. My playtime or enjoyment does [b]not[/b] excuse the game from criticisms. *This post was copied from the original

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                    • It takes all of 10 seconds to respond to players in the forums, but apparently Deej hasn't built in that functionality for himself. Even just a, "hey, that's an interesting idea I'll pass it along to the code monkeys and see if they fling poop at me" would go a long way. But no, they say they're watching, but the prioritization of things that are being patched, it seems doubtful and cryptic as to what the hell they are reading. Sometimes patch notes are like listening to your grandma telling you about how the gift she got you for Christmas is just like the thing you asked for, and your happy she listened, but at the same time it's just a little bit off.

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                    • You linked an article to which they've addressed some of the concerns. The others are just a whiny bitchfest

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                      • Bump

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                      • And that's why I play Minecraft. XD Even though I still play Destiny, Bungie just needs to get their act together before it ruins them.

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                      • 6/10 too much water "ign"

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                      • I would have to agree with you.

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                      • If Destiny's game play conceived with what No Man's Sky epicness exploration size looks to be, sprinkled with a decent storyline and narrative, then that, imo, is what Destiny should have been like.

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                      • things to fix as quick as possible: 1. Heavy Ammo loosing Bug from cutscenes and going to orbit (and maybe dying also) 2. PS3 Chat NAT problems

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