[b][i]Don't[/i] shoot/grenade the hobgoblins in the left portal[/b]... Worst case, they pop their shields and it turns a single slam into three with a couple seconds of waiting. Best case, you get the kills and I miss out on some super energy that could have really helped you out with that second-to-last oracle. Or [b][i]Do[/i] shoot/grenade the minotaur in the right portal[/b]... I'm not asking for sustained fire or for you to kill him, just pop a rocket or a grenade his way for me. 90% of the time he's solo-able, but when he comes up the stairs and curb stomps you, odds are he magically regenerated some health/shield and evaporated me, and now we're wiping. I mean come on... You regain grenades during time's vengeance anyway... But good tip OP, that prevents any "OMG I'm blind!" and still gets the relic to the center before Atheon starts moving.

When teleported relic holder can pick up shield and move to right or left side as they move down steps to avoid damage and sneak up on adds. throw a nade or 2 down to the steps to cause damage to adds before shooting oracles. Can use lmg to speed kill and oracle or 2 if getting behind. Relic holder can use super to take down 1 oracle. If you get to a plate before atheon teleports it will be open before you break detain.

So i got some tips since i usually run the relic on atheon. 1. If your team is behind on oracles you can drop the relic (press triangle on ps) and pop a few shots before picking it up. Works good when they only portal 2 people. 2. Always use relic super on 1 of the oracles to give the team breathing room. 3. You can also jump up and kill oracles with (r1 on ps) be careful not to fall to your death over a ledge.

If you cant kill minotaurs at spire, you should probaly reevaluate doing raid

The simple one I see is taking cover. More and more I see guys getting blasted and sitting out in the open. The other one is stay off the ground when supplicants come.

Maximize your weapons, you may not be level 30 yet due to RnG, but I'm sure you have had enough time to get Ascendant Materials. It really is annoying when someone level 29 complains about the Rng of raid and level 30's not wanting to take them along with raid due to them being 29. For me the only reason I'd say no is not having maxed weapons everyone has had more than enough Energies by now.

people should stop throwing grenades at atheon and the adds on portals so they wont move , also shoot rockets at the minotaur , grenades aint doin shit on that guy

JUMP AWAY FROM THE BUBBLE AT 5 SECONDS If I say this anymore it'll become my catchphrase, and probably my epitaph

MOVE AS A GROUP SO I CAN CLEANSE BOTH OF YOU AT ONCE! >:(

my question is there a way to tell which side your team gets teleported to without them telling you..i know there's a way to tell if you get teleported and say red or green there's mood lights on the walls next to the gates that correspond but surely there must be a way to tell which gate to clear and open

the player who picks up the relic, should immediately go to the base of the steps and clear the enemies, after all the enemies at the base of the steps are defeated, (2-3 jump attacks if lvl 28+, 3-4 if lvl 26-27) the player holding the relic should have the cleanse fully loaded and ready to use, he should meet the 2 players attacking the oracles roughly halfway up/down on the steps and cleanse them. the relic holder should then proceed to exit the portal. the 2 players still in the portal should easily be able to defeat the remaining oracles and exit the portal before going completely blind. once the player with the relic exits the portal he should IMMEDIATELY head to the center platform and use the relic shield. by the time he gets to the center platform and raises the shield, the 2 players that were finishing the oracles should by now have defeated the oracles and exited the portal. as soon as the last oracle killing player leaves the portal, all of the players not holding the relic, should proceed to the relic holder in the center platform (with the relic shield already raised. once all players enter the relic shield, there should still be around 20-22 seconds of times vengeance left, and plenty of time to beat up on ATHEON. when the times vengeance gets to 3-4 seconds players should immediately dip out of the relic shield and get to a safe spot, (away from ATHEON's fire). the next teleport will ensue almost immediately. 3-4 portals to kill ATHEON. raid finished. also on a side note, the player using the relic should be the highest level player who enters the portal. the higher his level, the stronger his jump attack will be, and the quicker he can take out the enemies at the base of the steps. for example a level 29-30 player can kill all enemies at the base of the steps with 2 jump attacks, while if the player holding the relic is level 26-28 it will take roughly 3-4, possibly 5 jump attacks before the enemies are defeated. played this way multiple times, completed the raid several times at this point by using this method. the absolute EASIEST way to defeat ATHEON. enjoy. :)

As a warlock I can use revive during times vengeance. No need to hide so I get great shots off with Horn.

When on atheon. Person who picks up relic is to run down stairs and not double jump until close enough to hit them with the ground pound. the other 2 are to wait for the relic holder to attack then help or just focus on the oricals. Any shots/grenades/double jumps makes them aware of you in the portal. When on hard mode. Venus same as above but everyone takes out the praetorians first.

"Hit L1 (LB) to cleanse, just like your grenade."

Leave the mars portal to the relic holder.(unless the hobgoblins are all spaced out) Help out on venus. Simple but overlooked.

This makes a massive difference in hard mode Atheon: - At 2-3 seconds remaining of Time's Vengeance, a Titan pops a bubble. - Everyone stays put. Do not move until the players get teleported. - Shoot the detainment shields; the Titan bubble is big enough that you can always hit part of them. Plus, if Atheon is still firing, he will destroy the detain shields in like a second. - You now have time to work out where the away team is and plot a path through the harpies. No one gets detained over a chasm or next to a suicide harpy.