There are many ways to complete the raid. If normal is what you referring to then we do not even place a bubble in the middle. Before you say anything we kill him in one transport.

If you are the relic holder and you die prepare to receive a barrage of hellstorm insults that ultimately attack you're personality and inability to execute anything correctly, as you are the reason we just lost the flawless raider trophy.

Unless the folks that are warped in with me are a bit slower killing the Oracles, I normally cleanse twice inside of the portal when I have the relic: 1) as soon as it is available 2) at the portal - if you overlap the shield with the portal there is no need to cleanse outside Run to the middle and drop the shield My basic tip would be to not be on the flipping ground when fighting Supplicants outside of the portal - I can't tell you have many people I see getting blown up because they are hot-dogging it. Just get up high, bunker down and shoot the bastards. If you need ammo - make your run as soon as all of the Supplicants on your side are killed.

I had a lvl 30 ask why was he marked when he got teleported. The team leader booted him so fastXD

Stay alive! I don't understand how I can outlive most 30s during runs.

Team work has to be the most important thing but when you play with people who are f**king clueless at times it's super difficult. I also get really pissed off on how people struggle to do Atheon on normal when it's not that hard. Like I rarely die in the raid because I watch my back and I use the dam mini map. Who ever the person picks up the relic has to know what to do and is the only person to destroy Vex when they get teleported to Mars or Venus. The rest just stfu and shoot oracles for f**k sake, and please if you ever play with me, DO NOT THROUGH GRENADES AT THE VEX. Just leave it to the relic man. Another thing is when you're teleported [b]ALWAYS[/b] keep on moving. i hate having to tell people to stick together as they waste time moving up whereas i'm further then them and by time one of the slow ones made it to teleporter, they've wasted time, it's also handy to keep them cleansed when on the move. [b]Don't let kids join[/b], simple as that. They lack interest, They always get told by the parents making them not reliable to have in fire team, F**king loud as hell, ike JB in the party. Lastly some lvl 29-30 and they cant do the Raid properly which just shows how lazy they are. After defending the spire at Atheon stage try and get both portals going. I tend to see people not doing so and when 3 people get teleported then the portal is not ready. Yeah I suppose it's not big deal and you can run over there but it's handy to have. Also try and keep the area clear because when people walk through the teleported to leave they just get blown up on the other side, and that's the defenders fault in my opinion.

Raid Tip #3: You are not John Rambo. Do not run right to the shining spawn points that will drop 6+ walking metal death traps on top of you. Raid Tip #4: When ignoring Raid Tip #3, do not bitch at your teammates for not immediately running to their deaths to respawn you. There is a 30 second timer, they have time to clear out the area first. Raid Tip #5: Do not repeatedly ignore Raid Tip #3.

tip: If you are shooting oracles in the portal,keep moving forward while you shoot and stay next to the other oracle shooter. Being able to cleanse both at the same time makes everything go much smoother. on both sides you should be at the bottom of the steps by the time the 3rd oracle is killed so the relic holder doesnt have to go up to get you.The 4th oracle should be dead or at least being shot at before you go completely blind.You being already in the middle makes it easy to cleanse if the relic holder for some reason didnt have everything dead by the time you killed the 3rd oracle.

*picks up relic* "what the fuk is this thing" [spoiler] if you don't know what it is... Don't touch it! X)[/spoiler]

It's pointless using the relic as a shield, it never works properly, my team decided to avoid using it in the last run as one or two people would die while in the shield every time

Personally as soon as guardians make their own fate I sprint out of the gate and hit the cleanse so my team cleanse as they come through

You are better off staying away from enemies and shooting them. Please stop trying to stand your ground and melee them, especially if you don't get a shield or pushback for doing so!, only to get bopped by a pratoreon or marked by ritual of negation because you melee'd a fanatic. This seems like common sense, but if it was common everyone would have it. Drives me nuts personally. It also irks me when people talk about how hard the pratoreons are to take out and they don't have void weapons -__- In one case I had a major SMH moment as the individual had gotten atheons epilogue previously but "i like my suro's man" rest of people "you realize that has void and oracle damage right? prob best primary for raid" guy " yeah but I like Suro's, it's awesome." rest of people "are you hurting for energy?" guy "no, I just like suro's." internal monologue: idiot level is now over 9000. shows when people have no concept of bonus damage or elemental weaknesses in games where you can build for them.