In a previous thread I posted this and many seemed interested to work it out so I though I'd make a thread so we can cancel things out.
As far as we know when you enter the Future/Green gate and once through you look to the left, there is the exact same entrance your team came in to start the Atheon fight, just it's at a different time and space/ future.
Now this gate I know as I've seen it with my own eyes two nights ago will open BUT only sometimes, now we don't know if there's a sequence or a method to opening the door but I can say 100% sure that it does open and when it does Vex start to walk out from it.
Last night my team got the Gatekeeper CP on easy and we had no luck to open it again, but I will say when it did open for us it was in hard mode.
[b]Proven not to work on [i]Easy[/i].[/b]
- Get Red/past gatekeepers health down till he teleports backwards then leave and goto Future gate. ( [i]Door Didn't Open[/i] )
- Get Red/past gatekeepers health down till he teleports backwards then leave and goto Future gate and kill that gatekeeper pick up the future relic. ( [i]Door Didn't Open[/i] )
- Kill the Red/Past gatekeeper grab the relic, bring it over to Furture/Green portal ( [i]Door Didn't Open[/i] )
- Kill the Red/Past gatekeeper grab the relic, bring it over to Furture/Green portal then kill that gatekeeper and pick up the future relic ( [i]Not Open[/i] )
- Once doing all of above, then opening your ghost to the closed door ( [i]Door Didn't Open[/i] )
[b]Proven not to work on [i]Hard[/i].[/b]
- Go straight into the Right portal grab the relic ( [i]Door Didn't open[/i] )
[b]Proven Open Gate Method.[/b] ( as far as we know! )
- [i]Hard mode[/i], get the left portal up first, get that gatekeeper's health down till he teleports to the back of that area. then head over to the right portal/ [i]Future [/i]and kill that gatekeeper, pick up the relic and head towards the Gate ( not the portal ) you will notice when you grab the relic and look directly forward in a straight line towards the Atheon V gate it will be open with Vex coming out from inside, now this is as I've done it 100% true BUT I don't know if there was a number of mobs we killed or something we might have done previously in other areas to get this to open but this is exactly what we did in the Gatekeeper section.
When in that area you only have a certain amount of time before you need to be cleansed and not to mention your team needs to be killing oracles and keeping the gate open, so it is very very hard but when the gate is open you can see down the tunnel, and it's exactly the same as the tunnel you walk down to enter the Atheon room, we are extremely excited to know what exactly is down there, perhaps the hidden chest? Hidden Boss? Hidden Relic? Know idea.
Please if anyone is keen to crack this and find out what happens when you actually go through the Entrance V gate in the furture, then post your interest here.
If anyone does try this and has some news to contribute please do I'll add it right away.
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[b]EDIT: 1 [/b]
[u]Some people have ask me how exactly we got to that point so I'll explain.[/u]
- We opened the main door as usual I even think someone went down then proceeded to the Templar.
- Started the waves with a 4 & 2 setup and went into the [i]spirit bloom chest cave[/i] when the fenatics came through.
- Oracles, we died and reset up top and sniper them all ( easy this way )
- Templar, we cheesed the templar.
- Went through the spirit bloom cave and DIDN'T open the spirit chest.
- Opened the chest below then entered the Gorgon maze.
- Got the Gorgon chest then died for reset, then complete the maze and onto Atheons area.
- Gatekeepers, we got the left GK down to min health were he teleported to the back of the area, then we came out and opened the right portal.
- When inside we instantly killed the Gatekeeper and grabbed the relic.
- Once I grabbed the relic as I was running down[b] towards the portal I noticed the Triangle Gate/ Door directly infront of me[/b] was open and Vex were coming out from it, I then told my fireteam member that was with me and he said "omfg I've never looked over there" and I hadn't either until this point, we then died as we jumped over to investigate due to our team on the outside didn't kill oracles in time.
We then tried again but the same thing happened my team failed on the outside.
Last night we tried all this on normal mode but the door was closed, now the only two things we did different was that we killed a Gorgon on the maze for a friend that needed the card AND it was on easy mode, other than that I can't understand why it was closed.
[b]For those of you still wondering what door we are speaking of![/b]
[spoiler]http://i58.tinypic.com/2layqhf.png[/spoiler]
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I feel that if you can walk through the door in the past, take the relic outside and "maybe" try and shoot the ulti at the portal where the platforms are, this might power it or spawn a chest, then go back through the past portal to the present and anything that was changed in the past will now be available for your entire team in the future.
[b]Reddit Link:[/b] http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2ludfd/secrets/
[b]Relic in the Gorgon area:[/b] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=121fFkc3ms0
[u]Rewards Stream Thus Far ( in all MIA )[/u]
[b]What We Know![/b]
[b]1:[/b] First Gate, complete = Chest
[b]2: [/b]Oracles, complete = Reward
[b]3:[/b] Templar, complete = Reward/Chest
[b]4:[/b] Gorgons, complete = [u]NOTHING[/u] but two chests one prior and one mid.
[b]5: [/b]Gatekeepers, complete = Reward
[b]6:[/b] Atheon, complete = Reward
[b]7:[/b] New secret area that needs to be glitched to gain access = Chest
[b]NEW EDIT INFO:[/b]
With the latest news from a Bungie employee saying that there is another chest to be found in the VOG and this image [url]http://imgur.com/u0s5vdL[/url] of a quote surfacing only cements what we have found here. The quote says about between future and past but not present, well if we go to the future portal walk through that entrance we are speaking of then you would technically be in the present but still in the future times instance therefore being lost in time & space?
Thoughts?
[b]Update - 3/3/15[/b]
We got the door to open again but this time it was just as the fight for Atheon begun. As the one of the relic holders was protecting the center conflux I went into Venus portal / green with the other relic" must be glitched as your no suppose to be able to do that" I then quickly jumped over and the door was open, as soon as I went inside the fight against atheon must have begun and my relic was gone and my screen went black. This all happened within a max 15 seconds.
So whoever is saying there's a invisible wall there is not true.
There must be another way to open it with more time on our hands to look around, we are only doing it 50% right. I will be trying again this weekend and either streaming it or recording with my crappy recorder.
[b]Update 6/10/15[/b]
Have been silent but still working on this and other areas. Now with this new area found that needs to be glitched to access makes me think we need to look further into the vog. I spent a heap of time in there yesterday and found a heap of new things that were never there, I still feel that the "past" has something to do with it. Also I found a new area in the bunker which looks like a reward room but I can't get access, I found this via a spawn glitch and was pulled outside the map into a huge sandbox, recording is on my psn.
Once I know more I'll update but in working hard on the Sleeper atm.
P.S anyone else notice that when you kill all the portals very fast in the Echo Chamber strike this orb appears? [url=http://example.com]http://i.imgur.com/MVRHn9G.jpg[/url]
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Had to repost my comment to the comment below with the Video confirming my entire thread ( basically ) Well there you -blam!-ing go, now everyone can stop flaming me as you can clearly see you can walk out with the relic in hand, and I bet my left nut that it's through the Right portal gate when it's open, just as this entire thread is about. You Sir are a champion.
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Should be noted that the you can see a guy in the gif get revived, therefore this must be on normal.
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4 RespuestasTHEORY: So there is a lot of speculation about a secret raid boss, and fate of all fools. So what if, there IS a secret raid boss, and the only way to obtain said gun is to kill the secret raid boss.
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3 RespuestasA friend of mine told me they rushed out and saw a chest but never got to it
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7 RespuestasFuture portal is the desert portal. Past is the forest.
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[b]OP updated with exciting news!!!![/b]
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What system are you on? As i would like to help you out. Add me with a note attached regarding this post Psn : Cruentus4nl (ps4)
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anyone here remember how hard it was to get the scarab gun...i just want a hint or someone to dechompress the destiny vog files and see if there is something in the code
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12 RespuestasCan the Raid 'the Glass' thing be done by one person...I'm a level 27 Titan....?
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11 RespuestasDude are you for real???? This could be the only way to open the hidden vex gate off in the distance in the platform area just before Atheons room!!!!
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5 RespuestasWell, cant get anymore bored than what i am so... Looking for a myth buster team, mainly all 30s to test this myth out on xbox 360 Gt is xxatomiiczxx. Msg if interested :3
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1 RespuestaDid you try to run through it with the relic?
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1 Respuesta"Hidden boss" Dream on, kids.
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When that door is open and you have the relic run through it and see where it takes you.
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As cool as all this would be, at most it would just be a Chest... Hope I'm wrong
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3 RespuestasAfter killing atheon on hard, my team doesn't get marked in the past portal. Is it a glitch or has this happened to other ppl?
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1 Respuestahey man was just trying some stuff at the gatekeepers i took over both plates then let the vex take over both once vex control both plates you will hear the same noise that atheon makes when he open the timestream theres got to be more to it
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Just for you little one's having a bickle about [i]Past & Future[/i]! [b]DESCENDANTS[/b] Survivors of the Vault of Glass report sightings of ancient Vex - ancient in the sense that they have endured for eons. Convergent analysis from multiple Ghosts suggests that these Vex exist in our future. If the Vex exist in our future - or in a possible future - should we take this as evidence that their defeat is impractical or unattainable? The Guardian Vanguard is quick to point out that time travel remains a mystery, and that the continued existence of the Vex is not remotely a sure indication of humanity's extinction. [b]PRECURSORS[/b] Those who delve deep into the Vault of Glass have seen time itself torn asunder. Awestruck Ghosts report encounters with ancient Vex, their casings built long before the age of humanity. It would be easy to assume these Vex are the ancestors of those we face today - but with the Vex it is never so simple.
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Anyone on now want to get a team going and look around add frappi ps4 I'm in CrIIZn team will run through exactly as before
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What would happen if you let the Vex take the portals inside the throne room? After opening the Vault's door ads continue to spawn, maybe they retake the plates when you leave? Or leave someone back to lure them into doing so? That would be 5 vex controlled plates. Or alternatively leave one back to maintain your grip on these plates while the other 5 tackle the raid. On hard my team was able to beat the confluxes (the hardest part in the raid in our opinion) with 4 30's (we had 5, but 1 died during the process). Just wondering if these plates can possibly trigger the dormant gates that we're curious about.
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http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/77839173/0/0/1 Let Deej/Bungie know we need an answer!
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2 RespuestasTrying to put together a party for normal. 29 Titan with lots of experience. Msg me if interested
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8 RespuestasGood luck, guys. Also, the red gate is the future and the green is past...
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Let the vex take over both portals, have people killing oracles and someone go out the main door and go look around
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Seen it open also vex came out but i think i saw black smoke in front of the door so u couldn't get in there but i could be wrong.
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1 RespuestaIts a bit grainy but 100% open. Good stuff, it raises questions. One thing though... all these theories are sweet but has anyone tried to do the raid on hard perfectly without anyone dying? The reason i thought that is because on destinydb.com there is a second set of raid gear not just for VoG but for Chamber of the Night (Dark Below DLC) also. It just makes sense that there would be a different reward for just that.