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Editado por AnAverageGamer:
10/31/2014 1:38:39 PM
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Woman walks through NYC for 10 hours; harassed over 100 times
[url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/nyc-woman-who-was-harassed-over-100-times-in-10-hours-speaks-out/article1-1280476.aspx]She's being threatened with -blam!- (sex against her will) now too.[/url]
What is your reaction to this, Flood? Personally, I think women should be able to walk where they want without fear of being harassed/threatened.
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Inb4 she should appreciate the compliments even if she doesn't want them
Inb4 "what's wrong with saying hello to somebody?" even though that's clearly not even close to all that was said to her
Edit: video now in the op
2nd edit: [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2014/10/29/the-story-behind-that-10-hours-of-walking-in-nyc-viral-street-harassment-video/]Some excerpts from an interview pertaining to this video[/url]
[quote]May (Bliss' business partner): Nobody asks to be told all that stuff about what they look like. And I think that street harassment really ruins it for the nice guys. I think that all of us really want to live in a world where we can say “good morning” and “you look great today” to our neighbors without fear that those comments are going to escalate into something more severe. But as long as street harassment is as persistent and pervasive as it is, you know, most women — they hear stuff like that and they’re braced for it to get worse.
Roberts (the woman in the video): Granted, the words themselves — if you wrote those words down, you wouldn’t necessarily think of them as harassment. But it’s the intention and the intonation of their voice. It changes everything. I’m normally walking around with pretty open body language, but I have to censor myself. I don’t feel like I have the right to be safe at this point. I’m constantly reminding myself not to be so friendly to people because I’m scared of more occurrences of sexual assault.
Bliss (the guy holding the camera): So many men just don’t understand this issue and a lot of men have trouble putting themselves in the shoes of women in these situations. For them, they see one instance of it happening. They have their own personal experience of one time and they say “hey baby” and that’s it. But what they never see is all the other guys that are doing the exact same thing and none of them get to experience what that collective weight feels like to have that happen day in, day out — being judged and talked about by complete strangers about your hair, how you look, how you’re dressed and just being objectified like that day in, day out.
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That's sad
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"I just saw a thousand dollars!"
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32 RespuestasI'm not sure if I should ban you. You posted a vid that shows unprivileged minorities oppressing women. Obviously cis-het white men weren't at fault here, if they were I could ban this in a heart beat guilt free. But the fact that this vid shows an "unprivileged" group acting in a way that doesn't fit the SJW narrative I'm unsure what to do.
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1 RespuestaEditado por ManBearPig: 11/22/2014 3:49:49 PMOh dear god, take this off the forums and go back to tumblr, we don't want you here.
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1 RespuestaFree speach.
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1 RespuestaThis video is extremely racist. The title could accurately be "Look at the black men trying to pick up a white woman."
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1 RespuestaHow about that one kid in Target that girls took pictures of and put all over the internet? Plus a guy model walked around in public and received a ton of cat calls from women and men. Ban walking Ban talking Ban stalking Hash slinging slasher
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LOL It's -blam!-ing New York City,what did she expect? Barring places like Park Slope,Fort Green,Parts of Queens,Staten Island,I'm sad to say that if you really are that goodlooking 80% of the time,that's whats going to happen. I'm not saying it's right,because it's not. I've cursed,yelled and almost got into a fight with people who say those same disrespectful things to my sister and one or two of my past girlfriends.
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Ha abierto un tema nuevo: Man walks through NYC for 10 hours; harassed over 100 times(6 Respuestas))
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1 RespuestaWell, if she would have just stayed in the kitchen, none of this would have happened. [spoiler]2eggy[/spoiler]
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4 Respuestasstop posting things pointing out harassment, inequality, and don't even think of talking about feminism, jesus christ that's a big no-no among this group of people. The majority of the gaming community are happily ignorant to the facts. you will get nowhere. you will change none of their minds. it is a waste of f-cking time! After all, the poor white man is facing so much discrimination today!
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Editado por Decimator Omega: 11/2/2014 4:57:22 AMWhoa hold up. Telling someone "Good morning" is harassment now? Screw you guys, I'm going to isolate myself on Mars.
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3 RespuestasI say hello and good morning to people, men and women. It's a bit of a joke that you think that means I want to have sex with you.
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You're shitting me.... I'm just going to completely disregard the fact that she was a straight up bitch throughout the video. So I noticed that several of the statement were simply a "Good morning" or a "Nice evening" how is that harassment? That's just being friendly. What as a guy if I see a pretty girl I'm interested in am I not supposed to say anything to her? Do they want all males to be like beta White Knights who will never have the confidence to give a stranger a compliment? which is what a lot of this was. This has seriously gotten out of hand. I can't believe people actually buy into this stuff.
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She deserved it
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1 RespuestaEditado por RIP delta: 10/31/2014 11:22:27 AMWhilst as a white male I generally can't relate to harassment on a personal level - although obviously find it a shameful thing to be doing, I have mixed feelings about this one. A lot of the comments made are innocent enough and don't, or rather shouldn't, constitute harassment and I feel that including them in the instances tally is basically showing a bias. Of course some of the instances shown are pretty creepy and must be disconcerting for a woman to have to experience daily, I can't help feel that at least a proportion of the issue here lies in the mind. Where I live it is standard fare to say "How do [you do]" to total strangers as you pass on the street. Why just today out on my run I must have said "Good Morning" to half a dozen strangers. Whilst I know that this isn't the norm for big cities, having lived in one, it does surprise me that simple friendliness is something deemed to be 'not wanted'. Having read a few articles about this in various places, what has struck me is that a sizeable amount of the female commentors have expressed the wish to not be spoken to at all by men, even if it is a simple "Good Morning". Perhaps this is a thing I've overlooked in my day to day life - that women do have to put up with unwanted comments that sour their experiences to the point of simply wanting isolation; even a constant nagging fear of the intentions of any man they engage in even the slightest conversation - but it does somewhat sadden me that, and having read this several times, there seems to be a belief that by saying "hello", men are dictating the environment. I would argue that by wishing to be unsociable, it could also be interpreted to be the contrary. Again, if women do feel that they can't engage in polite conversation then that is obviously symptomatic of a wider issue, and evidently it is something men need to keep in mind when walking down the street. I would also hope that the majority of us think that it is unacceptable to single women out for unnecessary attention where it is clearly unwanted and/or inappropriate, and slowly we get away from a society where cat-calling is seen as acceptable. But ho-hum, I'll continue to smile at strangers because that is the friendly thing to do. Plus I don't look especially -blam!-y
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Yes saying have a nice day is street harrasment
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5 RespuestasIn a city with the population like NYC, and walking around for 10 hours, I'd say 100 people saying something to her is a very low amount. She probably passed anywhere between 50-100 people per minute if she was in a busy area. But let's really low ball. Let's say on average she passed 30 people every minute. That equals 18,000 people she passed in 10 hours time. So out of 18,000 people, 100 said something to her. That's about 0.55% of the people that she crossed. I'd say that is a very low amount when put into perspective. Also, there are instances where it is questionable whether it should actually count as "harassment". Saying have a nice day or hello I don't think should. There are some weird people in NYC. Some of those weird people may say hello to everyone and it not have anything to do with sex. I think this woman is making this issue out to be much more than it is. I'm not saying that harassment of women is ok. It's not. But let's focus on actual harassment and not cry wolf every time someone does something we don't 100% agree with.
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Well a man did the same exact thing and guess what he was harassed over 100 times to
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Oh my God I can't believe people would harass her that way. We live in such an oppressive world. All men are fat disgusting pigs who abuse women. They should all die. //sarcasm
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I partly agree with you, but I partly dont. A women should be able to wear whatever she likes, but in doing so she should expect to turn heads or gain attention - because in reality that is the point of 'showy' clothes. Male or female, you wear clothes like that because you want to appear attractive to the opposite sex. You can't expect anybody, man or women to see somebody wearing tight fitting, little to the imagination clothes and not look that persons way. Or pay attention to that person. In reality, if you are going to wear clothes like that, you should expect to turn heads - and if you don't like the attention, a wardrobe change might be best. In terms of harassment? So we now live in an era where a male can't even say hi or hello without it being called harassment. It's pathetic. How long before even looking at a women becomes harassment because you find her desirable. You can claim how the greetings 'sounded' sexual, but again - saying hello is not harassment and stop treating it as such. Saying hello and continually asking for their number is, or following them [u]is[/u] Overall, I think this video is pathetic. There were barely ten cases out of the thousands of people she walked pass. Yes, she still got harassed, but considering this women views things like hellos as harassment, then it should just be ignored. She is just grabbing for attention.
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Wow, that is probably the weakest video I have ever seen. The one part I would consider "harassment" was the one guy who followed her and asked if it was because he was ugly or something like that. When did compliments become such a horrible thing? And don't try to tell me they were only trying to get in her pants. That's bullshit. I guarantee the majority probably did not expect anything to happen, especially after she ignored them. They were just stating their opinion, which they have every right to do. So why can't women just ignore these petty compliments if they really hate them so much? I will agree that there is an issue when they run into that one guy that follows them around and consistently tries to talk to them, like in the video, but that is one out of hundred instances in the video which are probably out of at least a few thousand. I honestly don't think street harassment is that much of a problem, though I admittedly am not experienced in that subject. I'd bet that harassment in the work place is more common.
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Editado por ShaughnTr0n: 10/31/2014 5:47:16 PMI think that's partially the location. Living in Texas, I don't see it all that often. Small edit: there's a few bad examples in there too though. Telling someone to have a good day (as in no "darling, or sweetie" in the sentence) is not harassment.
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1 Respuesta"How are you this morning?" "Have a nice evening." Oh noes! How dare they! Pigs!
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11 RespuestasDid someone poop in her coffee? It's fine to ignore people, but when someone compliments you and tells you to enjoy the rest of your day, don't be a beezy about it.
